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Old 10-11-2008, 12:16 PM   #1
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The Giants would be crazy to give up more than a third for Tony, but if they offered that 2nd and fifthas has been suggested by Glazer, I'd be all over that like a pig on shit.
Why?

If the Saints gave up a 2nd & a 5th for an injured Jeremy Shockey (who's nowhere near as talented at Gonzalez), why would they be "crazy"?

I don't get that logic at all.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:16 PM   #2
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Why?

If the Saints gave up a 2nd & a 5th for an injured Jeremy Shockey (who's nowhere near as talented at Gonzalez), why would they be "crazy"?

I don't get that logic at all.
So because the Saints made a reeruned deal, the Giants should?

At least the Saints NEEDED a TE.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:20 PM   #3
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So because the Saints made a reeruned deal, the Giants should?

At least the Saints NEEDED a TE.
Why not? That should be the standard.

Additionally, the Giants are pretty much loaded at nearly every position. They're not the Chiefs. As a matter of fact, they're the exact opposite of the Chiefs.

If they give up the 2nd & 5th acquired from N.O. for Shockey, they've upgraded their roster tremendously with the acquisition of Gonzalez.

AND they still have all 7 draft picks in 2009.

IMO, it's a no-brainer for the Giants
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:22 PM   #4
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Why not? That should be the standard.

Additionally, the Giants are pretty much loaded at nearly every position. They're not the Chiefs. As a matter of fact, they're the exact opposite of the Chiefs.

If they give up the 2nd & 5th acquired from N.O. for Shockey, they've upgraded their roster tremendously with the acquisition of Gonzalez.

AND they still have all 7 draft picks in 2009.

IMO, it's a no-brainer for the Giants
So a mistake on the part of the Saints is now the standard for vaule at the TE position?

They gave up WAY too much, and they did for two reasons:

One, they desperately needed a pass-catching TE, and overpaid for one.

Two, even with his injury history, Shockey is what, 27? He has 7-8 years left in the tank.

Gonzalez MIGHT have two.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:23 PM   #5
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Why not? That should be the standard.

Additionally, the Giants are pretty much loaded at nearly every position. They're not the Chiefs. As a matter of fact, they're the exact opposite of the Chiefs.

If they give up the 2nd & 5th acquired from N.O. for Shockey, they've upgraded their roster tremendously with the acquisition of Gonzalez.

AND they still have all 7 draft picks in 2009.

IMO, it's a no-brainer for the Giants
Why?

Didn't they just win a SB without Gonzalez?
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:26 PM   #6
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Why?

Didn't they just win a SB without Gonzalez?
So?

Does that mean that they shouldn't improve?

Did the New England Patriots sit still after winning their Super Bowls or did they make moves to ensure they'd continue winning?

Furthermore, the Giants play in the toughest division in football. The can't be complacent if they want to repeat as NFC Champs.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:37 PM   #7
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So?

Does that mean that they shouldn't improve?

Did the New England Patriots sit still after winning their Super Bowls or did they make moves to ensure they'd continue winning?

Furthermore, the Giants play in the toughest division in football. The can't be complacent if they want to repeat as NFC Champs.
This isn't simply about improvement.

It's about improving while also keeping your eye on the future.

I don't believe in throwing away draft picks on a guy that only has a couple of years left.
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Old 10-11-2008, 01:13 PM   #8
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This isn't simply about improvement.

It's about improving while also keeping your eye on the future.

I don't believe in throwing away draft picks on a guy that only has a couple of years left.
Well, maybe you don't.

But you didn't just win the Super Bowl while everyone else in your division improved.

IF the Giants traded for Gonzalez, the deal is essentially Shockey for Gonzalez.

Who in their right mind wouldn't do that?
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So because the Saints made a reeruned deal, the Giants should?

At least the Saints NEEDED a TE.

And really, did they need a TE that badly?

They were putting up a ton of points without a top TE.
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And really, did they need a TE that badly?

They were putting up a ton of points without a top TE.
You're right, can't really argue that.
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