Herm can't handle the egos...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, it's completely the defenses fault we're 1-4.

How many points per game are we scoring on offense again?

I never said it was completely the defenses fault did I? But our defense sucks ass. It's worse than it was last year, and the year before. We were supposed to be going the other way.

Tyler, and everyone else on that team all need to and worry more about getting a first down before half time and less about Tony Gonzalez.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I never said it was completely the defenses fault did I? But our defense sucks ass. It's worse than it was last year, and the year before. We were supposed to be going the other way.

Tyler, and everyone else on that team all need to and worry more about getting a first down before half time and less about Tony Gonzalez.

So, what about the offense?

I guess they are all doing great?

Or just your boy TG?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, what about the offense?

I guess they are all doing great?

Or just your boy TG?

I'd say if it wasn't for TG they would face 11 in the box every play.

And I never said the offense was good. I said the defense sucks. Sorry if that bit o' truth bothers you.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'd say if it wasn't for TG they would face 11 in the box every play.

And I never said the offense was good. I said the defense sucks. Sorry if that bit o' truth bothers you.

The defense DOES suck. I've NEVER claimed otherwise.

The offense sucks as well, and last I checked, Gonzalez plays on the offense.

I guess he's absolved from all failures because of who he is?

And you wonder why the locker room may be divided...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The defense DOES suck. I've NEVER claimed otherwise.

The offense sucks as well, and last I checked, Gonzalez plays on the offense.

I guess he's absolved from all failures because of who he is?

And you wonder why the locker room may be divided...

Yes, in this case because of who he is, what he brings to the field every game and what he has done for this team, you're down right, ****ing skippy even, that he is "absolved".

Why can this not be he was told one thing by Dick Head Carl and decided that he isn't getting what he signed onto?

I mean take a look at what this offense has done this year from a coaching perspective. McCinstosh is still starting. We had a practice squad guy running the ****ing option. We started Thigpen over Huard. We run the same bs plays for 1 yard over and over.

If he comes to the sidelines shaking his head and asking the coach WTF is going on, I think I will side with him in this case.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes, in this case because of who he is, what he brings to the field every game and what he has done for this team, you're down right, ****ing skippy even, that he is "absolved".

Why can this not be he was told one thing by Dick Head Carl and decided that he isn't getting what he signed onto?

I mean take a look at what this offense has done this year from a coaching perspective. McCinstosh is still starting. We had a practice squad guy running the ****ing option. We started Thigpen over Huard. We run the same bs plays for 1 yard over and over.

If he comes to the sidelines shaking his head and asking the coach WTF is going on, I think I will side with him in this case.

That's the thing, if he's doing that, he's doing it in private.

Publicly, he's saying "**** this, trade me."

And what does Carl have to do with this?

Tony knew who the coach was, and how he operates when he signed that deal. He sure didn't have a problem cashing that check, did he?

You can continue to put the guy on a pedestal if you want. 88 WAS my favorite player. I've lost a lot of respect for him over this. Act like a leader - put the team above yourself. Not the other way around.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's the thing, if he's doing that, he's doing it in private.

Publicly, he's saying "**** this, trade me."

And what does Carl have to do with this?

Tony knew who the coach was, and how he operates when he signed that deal. He sure didn't have a problem cashing that check, did he?

You can continue to put the guy on a pedestal if you want. 88 WAS my favorite player. I've lost a lot of respect for him over this. Act like a leader - put the team above yourself. Not the other way around.

If you've lost respect for him on this you are truly a dickhead fan. That guy has given more of himself to this team and for what? FOR WHAT? Is he a Randy Moss? Does he take off plays? Is he in front of the camera like TO, causing drama all the time? Is he an obnoxious asshole like Chad Johnson?

**** NO! Tony has always put this team ahead of him. Frankly you're being a dick, if you truly liked him before as you claim. Everyone has their moments and this is the only one he has ever had. Then again you would have to actually ****ing appreciate what he has done for us for the last 10+ years, game in and game out, to have the view I do I guess.