Herm can't handle the egos...

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

Not that people have put him on a pedestal, but think that it would be nice to see TG end his career with a possibility of winning something.

You are blowing most of this way out of proportion, no one is burning Waters at the stake, come on, all they are saying is that Waters is a Herm "Yes" guy.


BTW, Tyler didn't call TG out what so ever, he just said it was a strange situation

So Water's is a yes man just because he acts like a professional and doesn't air the team's dirty laundry through the media? That's a leader. No one has any clue what Waters may, or may not be saying behind closed doors.

But to classify him as a yes man because he's trying to act like a pro and lead by example is exactly the kind of chicken-little, pile-on bullshit that has made this place unbearable lately.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So Water's is a yes man just because he acts like a professional and doesn't air the team's dirty laundry through the media? That's a leader. No one has any clue what Waters may, or may not be saying behind closed doors.

But to classify him as a yes man because he's trying to act like a pro and lead by example is exactly the kind of chicken-little, pile-on bullshit that has made this place unbearable lately.

Ummm, didn't Waters make a comment last year about how he didn't mind losing but "when you don't even try to win?", wasn't that him after a game last year?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Ummm, didn't Waters make a comment last year about how he didn't mind losing but "when you don't even try to win?", wasn't that him after a game last year?

Don't know. Honestly, I don't care. If you actually have a link to that quote, I'd give it some consideration.

People are calling Waters a yes man over RECENT comments.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Don't know. Honestly, I don't care. If you actually have a link to that quote, I'd give it some consideration.

People are calling Waters a yes man over RECENT comments.

I think he is a bit of one. Maybe for the right reasons... but good intentions and all. Should he slam anyone publicly? No.

If TG is slamming anyone it is our coaches.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I think he is a bit of one. Maybe for the right reasons... but good intentions and all. Should he slam anyone publicly? No.

If TG is slamming anyone it is our coaches.

Asking to play somewhere else isn't a knock on your teammates?

I don't care if Jesus Christ himself was the star left fielder on my softball team, if he said he wanted to play somewhere else, I'd tell him to **** off, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

There is no "I" in team.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Asking to play somewhere else isn't a knock on your teammates?

I don't care if Jesus Christ himself was the star left fielder on my softball team, if he said he wanted to play somewhere else, I'd tell him to **** off, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

There is no "I" in team.

You seem to have an guilt issue then or something. You are assuming that it is about you or the players in this case. That's pretty vane on your part.

I may like the guys I work with, but if me and the boss don't get along then something has to change.

Ain't no "we" in team either.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You seem to have an guilt issue then or something. You are assuming that it is about you or the players in this case. That's pretty vane on your part.

I may like the guys I work with, but if me and the boss don't get along then something has to change.

Ain't no "we" in team either.

Quit comparing work to a locker room. It's not even close to the same thing.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Asking to play somewhere else isn't a knock on your teammates?

Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.

I've been trying to explaing that to him. Most of the people I have talked with or listened to on the radio calling in all think the same thing, that this is a smack at the coaches not the teammates.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.

I think it's like the private whose lieutenant says, "Okay son, you run down that street and let the terrorist in that tall building shoot at you so we can get a bead on his location. I'm going to have a donut." So, the private takes one in the ass only to find out the lieutenant forgot to watch.

Even the most patriotic of guys are only going to do that once or twice before they say "Screw this. You try it." and head for Canada.

FAX

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.

Maybe I was raised differently.

I was taught that no matter what, you don't turn your back on your teammates. You win as a team, you lose as a team.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

...There is no "I" in team.

That's very true, Mr. OnTheWarpath58. But, you also have to remember, there's no "We" in "Completely fucked up and stupid."

FAX

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So Water's is a yes man just because he acts like a professional and doesn't air the team's dirty laundry through the media? That's a leader. No one has any clue what Waters may, or may not be saying behind closed doors.

But to classify him as a yes man because he's trying to act like a pro and lead by example is exactly the kind of chicken-little, pile-on bullshit that has made this place unbearable lately.

And yes, I think Waters is a bit of a yes man and a camera hog. I like him, but I am not ready to put him on Will Shields or Grunny levels yet.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So Water's is a yes man just because he acts like a professional and doesn't air the team's dirty laundry through the media? That's a leader. No one has any clue what Waters may, or may not be saying behind closed doors.

But to classify him as a yes man because he's trying to act like a pro and lead by example is exactly the kind of chicken-little, pile-on bullshit that has made this place unbearable lately.

Hey I'm not the one that has been going on that he is a yes man, but he does seem that way a little lately IMO, and yes others are able to have an opinion that differs from yours. But all I was saying is that people were saying he was a yes man, and you turn around and say that everyone on here is burning Waters at the stake.

I agree with you on a variety of topics, but you are blowing this TG thing out to something way more then what it really is.

Hell there was an article yesterday talking about how the teammates know where he is coming from and seem to be happy for TG.

Another thing about team, you keep complaining that he whinnied about not getting the three yards. Have you ever been on a team, that a teammate was going to break something like this? You wouldn't want to see him get it?

Teammates work both ways. I would think you would know that.

As far as distracting and dividing this team............well lets see, the team has gave up at least once this season, TG ****ing up the mojo in the locker room is the least of this teams problems.

JMO