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Old 10-14-2008, 09:38 PM   #1
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I think he is a bit of one. Maybe for the right reasons... but good intentions and all. Should he slam anyone publicly? No.

If TG is slamming anyone it is our coaches.
Asking to play somewhere else isn't a knock on your teammates?

I don't care if Jesus Christ himself was the star left fielder on my softball team, if he said he wanted to play somewhere else, I'd tell him to **** off, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

There is no "I" in team.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:41 PM   #2
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Asking to play somewhere else isn't a knock on your teammates?

I don't care if Jesus Christ himself was the star left fielder on my softball team, if he said he wanted to play somewhere else, I'd tell him to **** off, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

There is no "I" in team.
You seem to have an guilt issue then or something. You are assuming that it is about you or the players in this case. That's pretty vane on your part.

I may like the guys I work with, but if me and the boss don't get along then something has to change.

Ain't no "we" in team either.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:46 PM   #3
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You seem to have an guilt issue then or something. You are assuming that it is about you or the players in this case. That's pretty vane on your part.

I may like the guys I work with, but if me and the boss don't get along then something has to change.

Ain't no "we" in team either.
Quit comparing work to a locker room. It's not even close to the same thing.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:41 PM   #4
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Asking to play somewhere else isn't a knock on your teammates?
Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:43 PM   #5
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Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.
I've been trying to explaing that to him. Most of the people I have talked with or listened to on the radio calling in all think the same thing, that this is a smack at the coaches not the teammates.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:48 PM   #6
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I've been trying to explaing that to him. Most of the people I have talked with or listened to on the radio calling in all think the same thing, that this is a smack at the coaches not the teammates.
Great source, talk-show callers.

I wonder how most of the people who call in manage to form a sentence, much less hold an opinion I should value.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:49 PM   #7
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Great source, talk-show callers.

I wonder how most of the people who call in manage to form a sentence, much less hold an opinion I should value.
What ****ing source do you have? And personally I don't think they were otu to persuade you 1 iota. You seem to have this opinions you are above everyone and everyone gives a shit what you think?
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:47 PM   #8
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Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.
I think it's like the private whose lieutenant says, "Okay son, you run down that street and let the terrorist in that tall building shoot at you so we can get a bead on his location. I'm going to have a donut." So, the private takes one in the ass only to find out the lieutenant forgot to watch.

Even the most patriotic of guys are only going to do that once or twice before they say "Screw this. You try it." and head for Canada.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:52 PM   #9
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Not necessarily. It could be a knock on ownership and management.

In this case, it almost certainly was.
Maybe I was raised differently.

I was taught that no matter what, you don't turn your back on your teammates. You win as a team, you lose as a team.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:53 PM   #10
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Maybe I was raised differently.

I was taught that no matter what, you don't turn your back on your teammates. You win as a team, you lose as a team.
Sometimes management isn't on the team.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:58 PM   #11
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Sometimes management isn't on the team.
So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:59 PM   #12
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Even when a certified moron runs the team, Mr. OnTheWarpath58?

Perhaps you were raised differently. By a band of gypsy doofuses who just ran their wagons around in a big circle all day every day, maybe.

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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
Yep, Mr. FAX, even when a moron ran the team.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:03 PM   #13
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Yep, Mr. FAX, even when a moron ran the team.
Well, I can respect that. Actually, the more I read your posts, the more inclined I am to your argument that TG was being the prima donna in this case.

Nevertheless, when you weigh it all out (in my mind, at least) TG is a Chief. He was drafted a Chief and wanted to retire a Chief. It took a great deal for him to ask to be traded. That "great deal" was the stupidest head coach ever to don a headset backwards and ask for help turning it on. Because of that, I honestly don't blame him for wanting out.

Plus, I don't see anything wrong with pitching him the rock for 3 yards in front of the home crowd. Herm doesn't give a shit about the Chiefs. All he talks about are the Jets and the Bucs. If he did care, he would have given Tony his moment in the sun.

So, on balance, I'm still more for Gonzo on this deal.

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Old 10-14-2008, 10:01 PM   #14
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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
How noble of you and all your buddies. Such is the stuff of crappy movies.

Now that we've gotten that out of the way, perhaps you'd like to think deeper about what it means to be a professional.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:05 PM   #15
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So?

We hated, and I mean HATED our HS football coach.

But everyone stuck it out, and it created a stronger bond in the locker room.

Christ, we were just kids, and we acted more professional than the so-called professionals...
Are you kidding? You are comparing you HS team to the big business that is the NFL.

I don't think I will waist any more time on this discussion
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