Chiefs Glazer: Gonzalez angered and baffled by non-trade

milkman · 10-15-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Tony should

I want.... I don't want.... big ass baby.

The organization is supposed to take in the arse because he wants.

Did you not read the article?

As mecca pointed out, even Tony knows that no one is going to give up more than a third for a 32 year old TE, and a third was on the table.

They weren't going to take it in the "arse".

They were offered fair market value.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 06:18 AM

So several reports say that Buffalo offered a 3rd, and Tony refused to go there.

Tony mentions in this interview that a 3rd should have gotten the deal done.

I'd love to know what REALLY happened.

**dirk digler** · 10-15-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So several reports say that Buffalo offered a 3rd, and Tony refused to go there.

Tony mentions in this interview that a 3rd should have gotten the deal done.

I'd love to know what REALLY happened.

Yep me too but we know that the Bills offered a 3rd because Tony's friend Jay Glazer reported that and he said Tony turned it down.

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Did you not read the article?

As mecca pointed out, even Tony knows that no one is going to give up more than a third for a 32 year old TE, and a third was on the table.

They weren't going to take it in the "arse".

They were offered fair market value.

All that means is Tony has more value to the Chiefs than what was offered. Not hard to understand that he means more to KC than to other NFL cities.

Sure-Oz · 10-15-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

All that means is Tony has more value to the Chiefs than what was offered. Not hard to understand that he means more to KC than to other NFL cities.

To the fans he's great...but he doesn't want to be here and probably will retire soon and we won't get shit for him. He isn't going to help us get in the playoffs, we are a long way from that.

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

To the fans he's great...but he doesn't want to be here and probably will retire soon and we won't get shit for him. He isn't going to help us get in the playoffs, we are a long way from that.

We are only in position to speculate on when he will retire. I think he will play at least 3 more years, which is enough time to get him to the playoffs again.

Typically 3rd round picks take 2+ years to develop and equivalent talent is available through free agency every off season so I see more value in keeping Gonzo. We are not talking about just any player we are talking about a HOF who is part of the very fabric of the organization and is a great mentor and leader to the young guys. The team needs a few veterans on the team to lead by example, thus I think the Chiefs need Gonzo more than another 3rd round pick.

milkman · 10-15-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

We are only in position to speculate on when he will retire. I think he will play at least 3 more years, which is enough time to get him to the playoffs again.

Typically 3rd round picks take 2+ years to develop and equivalent talent is available through free agency every off season so I see more value in keeping Gonzo. We are not talking about just any player we are talking about a HOF who is part of the very fabric of the organization and is a great mentor and leader to the young guys. The team needs a few veterans on the team to lead by example, thus I think the Chiefs need Gonzo more than another 3rd round pick.

Maybe it's just me, but I would have a difficult time following the lead of a teammate that made it pretty clear that he didn't want to be here to lead.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-15-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Maybe it's just me, but I would have a difficult time following the lead of a teammate that made it pretty clear that he didn't want to be here to lead.

I wonder if you'll get barbecued over that comment the way I was last night.

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Maybe it's just me, but I would have a difficult time following the lead of a teammate that made it pretty clear that he didn't want to be here to lead.

Gonzo has demonstrated much more pride and character throughout his career for me to believe he will not give it 110%. He is not Randy Moss or Terrell Owens who will throw temper tantrums.

The rest of the team also realize the business of the NFL and will not let this episode distrupt.

**HemiEd** · 10-15-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Maybe it's just me, but I would have a difficult time following the lead of a teammate that made it pretty clear that he didn't want to be here to lead.

Herm Edwards has set the piss poor leadership example, Tony shouldn't be held to a higher standard than the HC.

But I do agree with your point.

milkman · 10-15-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

All that means is Tony has more value to the Chiefs than what was offered. Not hard to understand that he means more to KC than to other NFL cities.

I don't disagree.

I fully understand that Tony is worth more to the Chiefs,

But the point remains that the Chiefs were offered fair market value.

Chief Faithful · 10-15-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't disagree.

I fully understand that Tony is worth more to the Chiefs,

But the point remains that the Chiefs were offered fair market value.

Yes, it seems they were offered fair market value. He is just worth more to the Chiefs than market value so I'm glad he was not traded.

**Rausch** · 10-15-2008, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't disagree.

I fully understand that Tony is worth more to the Chiefs,

But the point remains that the Chiefs were offered fair market value.

I'd disagree.

Shockey was a whiney, often injured, average blocking, wide-body-diva.
Gono is easily TWICE the TE shockey was.

Value is getting twice as much in a trade.

milkman · 10-15-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd disagree.

Shockey was a whiney, often injured, average blocking, wide-body-diva.
Gono is easily TWICE the TE shockey was.

Value is getting twice as much in a trade.

The rest of the league wasn't going to be as stupid as the Saints were in that trade.

**Rausch** · 10-15-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The rest of the league wasn't going to be as stupid as the Saints were in that trade.

It was beyond stupid to give that for Shockey.

To throw his compensation out just to open trade talks sounds fair.

When you're trading for the best at your position (save K/P) top dollar/compensation is expected.

I'm ecstatic he's here.

There's always the outside chance we win the lottery and a new HC/GM reignite his fire after this season.

Sure, it's like buying a lottery ticket but...

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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2061115	So several reports say that Buffalo offered a 3rd, and Tony refused to go there. Tony mentions in this interview that a 3rd should have gotten the deal done. I'd love to know what REALLY happened.
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