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Old 10-27-2008, 03:52 PM   #1
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I still don't think that's a good approach in todays game.
I would say that it worked pretty well for the Patriots from '01-'05.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:53 PM   #2
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I would say that it worked pretty well for the Patriots from '01-'05.
When did he publicly berate a player?
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:56 PM   #3
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When did he publicly berate a player?
I was referring more to his main thrust---that the team triumphs over the individual. To be an effective coach, you have to be a fascist--literally.

The whole idea of fascism is based on fasces. A bundle of sticks. Individually, you can break any one. Bound together, they are unbreakable.

He needs to cut out the cancer first. And if it has to be an invasive removal of Vernon Davis, so be it. He's already a sunk cost.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:57 PM   #4
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I was referring more to his main thrust---that the team triumphs over the individual. To be an effective coach, you have to be a fascist--literally.

The whole idea of fascism is based on fasces. A bundle of sticks. Individually, you can break any one. Bound together, they are unbreakable.

He needs to cut out the cancer first. And if it has to be an invasive removal of Vernon Davis, so be it. He's already a sunk cost.
I'm not really disagreeing with the premise, I'm disagreeing with the way he went about it. I don't think you should publicly berate players, it generally won't end well.

If he doesn't like Vernon Davis great, keep it in house.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:04 PM   #5
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I'm not really disagreeing with the premise, I'm disagreeing with the way he went about it. I don't think you should publicly berate players, it generally won't end well.

If he doesn't like Vernon Davis great, keep it in house.
Who knows what went on behind closed doors with Nolan though.

In the longer version of the PC, he was asked what he said to his players, and he said he was going to keep that in house.

I see this as a way of establishing his imprint on the team and asserting himself as a leader rather than a lame duck. None of the guys on that team, save maybe Frank Gore, Clements, or Justin Smith, would have dick for pull with that organization.

If he feels that Davis needs to have either a fire lit under his ass, or needs to GTFO, this is his way of doing it. Whether or not it will be successful is yet to be seen. But he just pulled one of the oldest leadership moves in the book. Assert your presence with authority by making an example of some sorry one who sucks the penis.

Of course, I ****ing love Singletary and wanted him here in '06, so I'm not really all that objective about him.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:05 PM   #6
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I'm not really disagreeing with the premise, I'm disagreeing with the way he went about it. I don't think you should publicly berate players, it generally won't end well.

If he doesn't like Vernon Davis great, keep it in house.
Why should he keep it in house? He doesn't like his attitude and BS and I'm glad he called him on it.

Society today is filled with a pack of bitches. If Davis wants to act like a bitch, then Singletary had every right to treat him like one.

I'm tired of people tiptoeing around the truth.

Singletary was massively refreshing yesterday.
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:12 PM   #7
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I'm not really disagreeing with the premise, I'm disagreeing with the way he went about it. I don't think you should publicly berate players, it generally won't end well.

If he doesn't like Vernon Davis great, keep it in house.
I see your point.

But, he was asked from the media about Vernon. This is where I hate the media because they ask you a question about a controversial situation or topic to lure an answer or reaction from you. And then the next day will blow that topic out of proportion. They are an opposition in an evil form where they like to stir up sh*t.

I know there are coaches in this league that at times don't publicly berrate their players. I have respect for that. Some coaches prefer to lay low and be humble. Belichek is kinda like that. George Allen was kinda like that.

But not every coach is like that. Some coaches are different. differences in personalities. In Singletary's case, he spoke his mind. He may or may not have done the right thing? But he is new to the coaching scene. I give the dude some credit for speaking his mind. I think it is needed nowadays too many punks in this league.
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