Dorsey sucks

[Demonpenz]

Since dorsey isn't playing well why don't we try him at a different position to get some sort of value. Maybe we can play him on special teams to block for our return game.

[xbarretx]

On a serious note, what specifically do you guys mean by he’s being played differently than college? I mean I DO NOT for a moment think he’s a bust, however I won’t pretend to know the intricacies of the D-Line as well as others. So can I get a gist of what is meant by that?

thanks

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

On a serious note, what specifically do you guys mean by he’s being played differently than college? I mean I DO NOT for a moment think he’s a bust, however I won’t pretend to know the intricacies of the D-Line as well as others. So can I get a gist of what is meant by that?

thanks

In college he was allowed to go up the field and make plays, making penitration is the key. The way we are using him right now is to have him Stand up and pushed back 5 yards where he will either fall down or fall down while the ball carrier goes past him

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

In college he was allowed to go up the field and make plays, making penitration is the key. The way we are using him right now is to have him Stand up and pushed back 5 yards where he will either fall down or fall down while the ball carrier goes past him

jokes aside, are you saying he was supposed to get upfield in college and here his job is to draw doubleteams?

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

jokes aside, are you saying he was supposed to get upfield in college and here his job is to draw doubleteams?

Pretty much.

[xbarretx]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Pretty much.

well HTF does Herm/Gun expect to get sacks if we apparently arent going for them? if he cant get upfield then who IS supposed to?

thx btw

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by xbarretx

well HTF does Herm/Gun expect to get sacks if we apparently arent going for them? if he cant get upfield then who IS supposed to?

thx btw

Tank and Dorsey need to switch. Tank is built to be the double team blocking machine. I have no clue why those dumb idiots are doing what they are doing.

[chiefsngop]

He could end up being a bust, he could end up in the Hall Of Fame.

Anyone calling him a for sure bust, doesn't know how to read stat lines.

Look at all the dominant DT's in the NFL right now, then refer back to their rookie year stat lines.

It is incredibly easy to prove that a DT's rookie season doesn't prove sh*t.

That's not an opinion, it's statistical fact.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by chiefsngop

He could end up being a bust, he could end up in the Hall Of Fame.

Anyone calling him a for sure bust, doesn't know how to read stat lines.

Look at all the dominant DT's in the NFL right now, then refer back to their rookie year stat lines.

It is incredibly easy to prove that a DT's rookie season doesn't prove sh*t.

That's not an opinion, it's statistical fact.

I know it may be early...but honestly i really dont like what i see in him. He is not showing any signs of progress, he gets pushed back quite a bit and often. I dont see him using any moves, its just pure raw straight bull rush 90% of the time. He lacks explosion BIGTIME. that is coming off the ball.

His footwork is absolutely terrible.

Lack or explosion and bad footwork=death for any lineman

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by RedBull

I know it may be early...but honestly i really dont like what i see in him. He is not showing any signs of progress, he gets pushed back quite a bit and often. I dont see him using any moves, its just pure raw straight bull rush 90% of the time. He lacks explosion BIGTIME. that is coming off the ball.

His footwork is absolutely terrible.

Lack or explosion and bad footwork=death for any lineman

wait--FOOTWORK. a position coach has NO reason to help a guy out with his footwork, correct? ****. coaching means NOTHING

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by H5N1

wait--FOOTWORK. a position coach has NO reason to help a guy out with his footwork, correct? ****. coaching means NOTHING

whos job is it to demonstrate that on the field? The player.

A coach can advise him, but it's the players responsibility to work and practice what he needs to do to improve.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by RedBull

whos job is it to demonstrate that on the field? The player.

A coach can advise him, but it's the players responsibility to work and practice what he needs to do to improve.

but since you're the expert, now is the time when you come and tell us conclusively that you've SEEN how he's been coached, and that he's just too ****ing stupid to pick up on the coaching.

oh yeah. I forget. this is the team that has had the following players bust out IN A ROW. eric downing, ryan sims, eddie freeman, junior siavii, and (maybe) tank tyler, turk mcbride, and glenn dorsey (according to you)

yeah. all of those guys where just too ****ing stupid and nonmotivated to listen to the awesome great coaching they received (or did they?)

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by H5N1

but since you're the expert, now is the time when you come and tell us conclusively that you've SEEN how he's been coached, and that he's just too ****ing stupid to pick up on the coaching.

oh yeah. I forget. this is the team that has had the following players bust out IN A ROW. eric downing, ryan sims, eddie freeman, junior siavii, and (maybe) tank tyler, turk mcbride, and glenn dorsey (according to you)

yeah. all of those guys where just too ****ing stupid and nonmotivated to listen to the awesome great coaching they received (or did they?)

How the heck am I supposed to know how hes being coached? Am i behind the scenes to see how these guys are being prepared? I dont know.

Speaking of stupid, and nonmotivated. One thing I do know, I remember watching HBO hard knocks and they showed a clip of Tank Tyler sleeping while they were playing film. Now I dont know if that was for show or for real.

If it is real, do you know how ****n bad that is?

[chiefsngop]

Originally Posted by RedBull

I know it may be early...but honestly i really dont like what i see in him. He is not showing any signs of progress, he gets pushed back quite a bit and often. I dont see him using any moves, its just pure raw straight bull rush 90% of the time. He lacks explosion BIGTIME. that is coming off the ball.

His footwork is absolutely terrible.

Lack or explosion and bad footwork=death for any lineman

His lack of explosion could very well be caused by "thinking too much" and not just "playing". That usually works it's way out of a rookie in one season.

The rest of the items you listed can directly be tied to poor coaching. Get some better mentors around him and improvement could start immediately. And I think change is on the way in the defensive coaching department. (pray)

[alanm]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Since dorsey isn't playing well why don't we try him at a different position to get some sort of value. Maybe we can play him on special teams to block for our return game.

He can be taught to long snap and take a pay cut next year.