Chiefs Players: Don't Blame Herm

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

He has made some questionable decisions this year. Off the top of my head he had a couple of relatively short 4th downs and didn't go for them thus putting it in the defenses hand to win the game when they couldn't stop anybody all day long.

You miss my my point. Last year there were bigger questions, this year there are fewer, and no Herm hater want's to admit that. So the "horrible gameday coach" excuse carries little water.

He HAS had some bad days on that sideline, no question. And by the very nature of humanity - he's going to make other mistakes, everyone does. But when you can see improvements, then you don't keep bringing up the old mistakes. No relationship with work, spouse, family will ever be successful with that mentality.

-again, Herm stays or herm goes <>= to me, overall. Just pointing out other sides of the coin. If a new GM keeps him I'm ok with that, in fact more likely interested in the continuation of what started this year, but understand it if a new GM takes him out.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

You miss my my point. Last year there were bigger questions, this year there are fewer, and no Herm hater want's to admit that. So the "horrible gameday coach" excuse carries little water.

He HAS had some bad days on that sideline, no question. And by the very nature of humanity - he's going to make other mistakes, everyone does. But when you can see improvements, then you don't keep bringing up the old mistakes. No relationship with work, spouse, family will ever be successful with that mentality.

-again, Herm stays or herm goes <>= to me, overall. Just pointing out other sides of the coin. If a new GM keeps him I'm ok with that, in fact more likely interested in the continuation of what started this year, but understand it if a new GM takes him out.

I consider not going for a short 4th down and thus costing us a win a pretty horrible decision. I remember yelling at the TV at the time what an idiot he was for putting the game in the D's hand. He has done this a couple of times this season.

But as far as the TO's go and stuff like that I haven't seen that bad side of Herm since he has been here except for the occasional incident. This year he has been a ton better with reviews that is for sure.

INMVHO the main reasons why Herm should be fired is his 14-27 record in 3 years and his inability to fix the D like he said he would.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I consider not going for a short 4th down and thus costing us a win a pretty horrible decision. I remember yelling at the TV at the time what an idiot he was for putting the game in the D's hand. He has done this a couple of times this season.

But as far as the TO's go and stuff like that I haven't seen that bad side of Herm since he has been here except for the occasional incident. This year he has been a ton better with reviews that is for sure.

INMVHO the main reasons why Herm should be fired is his 14-27 record in 3 years and his inability to fix the D like he said he would.

The 4th down calls are very questionable criticism. If they were called the same way each time, you might have a point. But we've tried some, and declined to try some. I've agreed with many more 4th down decisions this year than I've questioned. And I've seen the same trend in many other posters here...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

The 4th down calls are very questionable criticism. If they were called the same way each time, you might have a point. But we've tried some, and declined to try some. I've agreed with many more 4th down decisions this year than I've questioned. And I've seen the same trend in many other posters here...

There is no question he has gone for it more but that is because we only have won 2 games. He had a couple of instances earlier in the season and chose not to go for it and put the game on the D's shoulder when it was obvious they couldn't stop shit. What that tells me is if we were a .500 team he would hardly ever go for it.

There is no reason no to go for it when you are the 2nd worst team in the NFL because you have nothing to lose.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

There is no question he has gone for it more but that is because we only have won 2 games. He had a couple of instances earlier in the season and chose not to go for it and put the game on the D's shoulder when it was obvious they couldn't stop shit. What that tells me is if we were a .500 team he would hardly ever go for it.

There is no reason no to go for it when you are the 2nd worst team in the NFL because you have nothing to lose.

So there's no question he has gone for it more, because we only have won 2 games..... but we should go for it more because we are the 2nd worst team in the NFL?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

So there's no question he has gone for it more, because we only have won 2 games..... but we should go for it more because we are the 2nd worst team in the NFL?

What I am saying is we suck so Herm choosing not to be so conservative doesn't matter because there is nothing on the line.

I guarantee you if this team was fighting for a playoff spot Herm would go back into ultra-conservative mode and screw this team just like he did early in the season when he decided to put the game in the D's hands.

Does that make sense?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

What I am saying is we suck so Herm choosing not to be so conservative doesn't matter because there is nothing on the line.

I guarantee you if this team was fighting for a playoff spot Herm would go back into ultra-conservative mode and screw this team just like he did early in the season when he decided to put the game in the D's hands.

Does that make sense?

Makes sense except for the part where you speak for what someone else might do...

But there is no rule anywhere that says you have to play differently when the odds are against you. Just because we're out of the playoffs doesn't mean we have to play like nothing matters.