Chiefs Herm Edwards needs to finish what he started - Page 8

Chieftain58 · 12-24-2008, 02:19 PM

Throwing Herm Edwards out now would be a step backwards. He started this youth movement and needs 1 more year to prove himself. If he fails so be it but give the guy a chance he has created a competetive team that looks good for the most part except for the pass rush. He has done alot of positive on our team.

(1) He has found a potential QB of the Future
(2) Great Corners and Safeties
(3) Offense is clicking and improving
(4) Offensive line is good
(5) Made us the youngest team in the league

Herm is a great motivator and the players love him even if the fans don't. Throwing him out now would create another year of rebuilding in the new image of the new Coach and set us back another year.

(flame away)

suds79 · 12-25-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I just can't fathom what the people who want to keep him are thinking.

Guess it still runs true that "there's a sucker born every minute." huh?

It's really hard to put together a compelling argument why Herm should stick around.

**Dave Lane** · 12-25-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

8 losses by 7 points or less with the youngest team in the league and after trading their best player away for youth.

I seriously doubt that if Clark Hunt retains Herm, the new GM would be responsible for Herm's performance beyond his first year.

Five of the eight youngest teams in the NFL made the playoffs in 2008; the Giants are the only franchise in this group that didn't win a division title.

The Packers, Colts and Cowboys were three of the four youngest teams in the league, and each won 13 games. The Chargers went 11-5 with the seventh-youngest roster. Half of the 2006 playoff teams were among the 12 youngest teams that year. Four of the nine youngest teams in 2005 made the playoffs.

**Bob Dole** · 12-25-2008, 10:00 AM

Herm Edwards should not now be, nor should he have ever been, an NFL head coach. He has done absolutely NOTHING to earn the privilege. He's proven time and again that he is not competent to manage a single game, much less a complete season.

Bob Dole doesn't wish Herm ill...Bob Dole just wishes Herm would get the hell away from Bob Dole's favorite team.

BigChiefFan · 12-25-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Five of the eight youngest teams in the NFL made the playoffs in 2008; the Giants are the only franchise in this group that didn't win a division title.

The Packers, Colts and Cowboys were three of the four youngest teams in the league, and each won 13 games. The Chargers went 11-5 with the seventh-youngest roster. Half of the 2006 playoff teams were among the 12 youngest teams that year. Four of the nine youngest teams in 2005 made the playoffs.

Good post!

**The Bad Guy** · 12-25-2008, 10:21 AM

Chieftain,

Also, if you think this offensive line is "good", then you need to have a shovel bashed upside your ****ing head.

There are 2 players on this line who are good. The rest are wastes of space.

crossbow · 12-25-2008, 10:41 AM

If by finishing what he started you mean they go from 2 to 0 wins so the the team can be declaired a COMPLETE failure instead of a 90% failure...then I can see your point.

Herm is a good guy and all but he skipped coaching in High School and College. He got the job because he knew someone and not becuase he had the experience. The pro level is not the place to learn your craft. The competition is just too intence and unforgiving. Failures cost too much and take too long to fix. Hey we all screwed up on our first jobs while we were learning but we weren't allowed to do it on multi-billion dollar accounts. Carl f-ed us so he could share the Hunt's money with his friend.

One last point: Herm is supposed to be a defensive minded coach. The Chiefs have the worse defense in the league. If his talent is with defense then why did Carl bring in that "consultant" to fix the defense?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-25-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crossbow

If by finishing what he started you mean they go from 2 to 0 wins so the the team can be declaired a COMPLETE failure instead of a 90% failure...then I can see your point.

Herm is a good guy and all but he skipped coaching in High School and College. He got the job because he knew someone and not becuase he had the experience. The pro level is not the place to learn your craft. The competition is just too intence and unforgiving. Failures cost too much and take too long to fix. Hey we all screwed up on our first jobs while we were learning but we weren't allowed to do it on multi-billion dollar accounts. Carl f-ed us so he could share the Hunt's money with his friend.

One last point: Herm is supposed to be a defensive minded coach. The Chiefs have the worse defense in the league. If his talent is with defense then why did Carl bring in that "consultant" to fix the defense?

REP!

chiefzilla1501 · 12-25-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Five of the eight youngest teams in the NFL made the playoffs in 2008; the Giants are the only franchise in this group that didn't win a division title.

The Packers, Colts and Cowboys were three of the four youngest teams in the league, and each won 13 games. The Chargers went 11-5 with the seventh-youngest roster. Half of the 2006 playoff teams were among the 12 youngest teams that year. Four of the nine youngest teams in 2005 made the playoffs.

I'll continue to respond with this blanket response anybody makes this claim.

The Chiefs' dysfunctions due to Carl Peterson's missteps are well beyond what any team in the NFL has faced.

There is no way in hell you can compare what the Chiefs went through with what the Cowboys or Packers went through.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-25-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crossbow

If by finishing what he started you mean they go from 2 to 0 wins so the the team can be declaired a COMPLETE failure instead of a 90% failure...then I can see your point.

Herm is a good guy and all but he skipped coaching in High School and College. He got the job because he knew someone and not becuase he had the experience. The pro level is not the place to learn your craft. The competition is just too intence and unforgiving. Failures cost too much and take too long to fix. Hey we all screwed up on our first jobs while we were learning but we weren't allowed to do it on multi-billion dollar accounts. Carl f-ed us so he could share the Hunt's money with his friend.

One last point: Herm is supposed to be a defensive minded coach. The Chiefs have the worse defense in the league. If his talent is with defense then why did Carl bring in that "consultant" to fix the defense?

I disagree. Nobody viewed Herm as a defensive specialist. Just a head coach who leans toward defense. He's always been viewed as a below average X's and O's guy, but a good motivator. That being said, it was a misstep on his part and Carl Peterson's part not to act sooner on canning Solari and to continually defend Gunther Cunningham.

Mike Tomlin came into Pittsburgh with similar inexperience. The Steelers' front office forced him to stick with Dick Lebeau, even if Lebeau ran a 3-4 while Tomlin specialized in the Tampa 2. That's the way you handle an inexperienced coach.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-25-2008, 02:13 PM

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious FAIL

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-25-2008, 02:20 PM

Negotiation FAIL:

Who knows though? Maybe with the right coaching and staff, #27 could be a force to reckon with again...

12-24-2008, 02:19 PM
Chieftain58 Fan club member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Land of OZ Casino cash: $10005117	Herm Edwards needs to finish what he started Throwing Herm Edwards out now would be a step backwards. He started this youth movement and needs 1 more year to prove himself. If he fails so be it but give the guy a chance he has created a competetive team that looks good for the most part except for the pass rush. He has done alot of positive on our team. (1) He has found a potential QB of the Future (2) Great Corners and Safeties (3) Offense is clicking and improving (4) Offensive line is good (5) Made us the youngest team in the league Herm is a great motivator and the players love him even if the fans don't. Throwing him out now would create another year of rebuilding in the new image of the new Coach and set us back another year. (flame away)
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12-25-2008, 10:00 AM	#108
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas Casino cash: $-1294563	Herm Edwards should not now be, nor should he have ever been, an NFL head coach. He has done absolutely NOTHING to earn the privilege. He's proven time and again that he is not competent to manage a single game, much less a complete season. Bob Dole doesn't wish Herm ill...Bob Dole just wishes Herm would get the hell away from Bob Dole's favorite team.
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12-25-2008, 10:21 AM	#110
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	Chieftain, Also, if you think this offensive line is "good", then you need to have a shovel bashed upside your ****ing head. There are 2 players on this line who are good. The rest are wastes of space. __________________
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12-25-2008, 10:41 AM	#111
crossbow King of Sarcasm Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: at home Casino cash: $10004900	If by finishing what he started you mean they go from 2 to 0 wins so the the team can be declaired a COMPLETE failure instead of a 90% failure...then I can see your point. Herm is a good guy and all but he skipped coaching in High School and College. He got the job because he knew someone and not becuase he had the experience. The pro level is not the place to learn your craft. The competition is just too intence and unforgiving. Failures cost too much and take too long to fix. Hey we all screwed up on our first jobs while we were learning but we weren't allowed to do it on multi-billion dollar accounts. Carl f-ed us so he could share the Hunt's money with his friend. One last point: Herm is supposed to be a defensive minded coach. The Chiefs have the worse defense in the league. If his talent is with defense then why did Carl bring in that "consultant" to fix the defense? Last edited by crossbow; 12-25-2008 at 10:52 AM..
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12-25-2008, 02:20 PM	#116
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Negotiation FAIL: Who knows though? Maybe with the right coaching and staff, #27 could be a force to reckon with again... __________________ 1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously. 100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO **ing rings as a Head Coach. CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!**
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