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Old 12-29-2008, 08:58 PM   #1
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why would Chicago draft Maclin when they have Hester?
I get to listen to a lot of Chicago sports talk, without a doubt WR is their biggest need, at least on offense. Hester is a complete failure as a WR; the thinking is that somebody like Maclin would be a #1 or 2 (their words, not mine) and Hester can focus more on PR/KR. Because he has hands of stone. They believe Forte will be their RB for a longtime.
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Old 12-30-2008, 05:23 AM   #2
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I get to listen to a lot of Chicago sports talk, without a doubt WR is their biggest need, at least on offense. Hester is a complete failure as a WR; the thinking is that somebody like Maclin would be a #1 or 2 (their words, not mine) and Hester can focus more on PR/KR. Because he has hands of stone. They believe Forte will be their RB for a longtime.
I wouldn't call Hester a complete failure at WR...I think he has potential to be a poor man's Steve Smith in a year or two...he is definitely a formidable deep threat.
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:55 AM   #3
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I wouldn't call Hester a complete failure at WR...I think he has potential to be a poor man's Steve Smith in a year or two...he is definitely a formidable deep threat.
Yeah, that's who Lovie kept comparing him to in the offseason, thought he would be similar to Steve Smith. He only lacks 2 things: good hands, and heart. He's just not very tough, certainly not when compared to Smith. He's got speed and he's elusive, but he gets his ass kicked constantly by opposing DBs.

I think, at this point, you can call him a failure,and the Bears (I think Frazod would agree) are better with him sticking to being a returner. The other WR, Rashied Davis, is also a failure.

In hindsight, maybe they should have kept Berrian, but I think Minnesota overpayed by a lot for him, so I don't fault them for that.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:52 AM   #4
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Yeah, that's who Lovie kept comparing him to in the offseason, thought he would be similar to Steve Smith. He only lacks 2 things: good hands, and heart. He's just not very tough, certainly not when compared to Smith. He's got speed and he's elusive, but he gets his ass kicked constantly by opposing DBs.

I think, at this point, you can call him a failure,and the Bears (I think Frazod would agree) are better with him sticking to being a returner. The other WR, Rashied Davis, is also a failure.

In hindsight, maybe they should have kept Berrian, but I think Minnesota overpayed by a lot for him, so I don't fault them for that.
Steve Smith was nothing more than a return man his first few years...give Hester another year or two...but yeah, I doubt he ever turns into Steve Smith...but they were really similar when Steve Smith was starting out.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:04 AM   #5
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Steve Smith was nothing more than a return man his first few years...give Hester another year or two...but yeah, I doubt he ever turns into Steve Smith...but they were really similar when Steve Smith was starting out.
he was a starter at WR his 2nd year.
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Old 12-30-2008, 10:13 AM   #6
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Smith was also a very good WR in college....Hester never had a position.
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he was a starter at WR his 2nd year.
Yeah, it appears as if you are right...

Me, I don't know...I live in Chicago, I see a lot of Bears games...I don't think he was a 'flat out' disappointment this season...he dropped some passes, but he was also an above average deep threat IMO...he drew a lot of penalties, big penalties, against DB's this year...but he did almost have 700 yards receiving...

I don't think he'll ever be Steve Smith...but he's definitely surpassed the value of the #57 overall pick in a draft...easily. He could retire tomorrow and still be a good draft pick for the Bears.
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Yeah, it appears as if you are right...

Me, I don't know...I live in Chicago, I see a lot of Bears games...I don't think he was a 'flat out' disappointment this season...he dropped some passes, but he was also an above average deep threat IMO...he drew a lot of penalties, big penalties, against DB's this year...but he did almost have 700 yards receiving...

I don't think he'll ever be Steve Smith...but he's definitely surpassed the value of the #57 overall pick in a draft...easily. He could retire tomorrow and still be a good draft pick for the Bears.
I'm not saying he has no value, he could be used like Ginn or Dane Hall as a gimmick, but he's a WR bust because Lovie elevated him to the status of #1 WR, and he clearly will not be. His value, as a KR, is off the charts, but trying to fit a square peg like him into a round hole is just going to further stunt his time as a KR.

Also, I watched a few Bears games, ad he dropped a crucial pass i each one I watched, and also got laid out a few times by opposing safeties. He's a little to small & soft, IMO.
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I get to listen to a lot of Chicago sports talk, without a doubt WR is their biggest need, at least on offense. Hester is a complete failure as a WR; the thinking is that somebody like Maclin would be a #1 or 2 (their words, not mine) and Hester can focus more on PR/KR. Because he has hands of stone. They believe Forte will be their RB for a longtime.
The WR problem in Chicago is kinda strange. They had Muhammad there for a few years and he could not do crap. He used to tear it up in Carolina and is showing signs of that now that he has returned. I mean seriously, when was the last time the Bears had a top notch WR?
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The WR problem in Chicago is kinda strange. They had Muhammad there for a few years and he could not do crap. He used to tear it up in Carolina and is showing signs of that now that he has returned. I mean seriously, when was the last time the Bears had a top notch WR?
Marcus Robinson was an absolute monster...A LA Randy Moss one year in Chicago...and then he blew out his knee and was never the same...I think Booker had 100 receptions one year as well.

But yeah, Marcus Robinson was a stud.

The problem with the Bears is this:

Curtis Enis, Cade McNown, David Terrell, Cedric Benson, etc...

They have missed on all of these high picks in the last decade and really only have Urlacher and Tommie Harris to show for all of their high first round picks.

I mean..Grossman, Salaam, Colombo...more later 1st round picks that were total busts. I'm probably even missing a few...

The Bears are in the same boat as every other shitty team...poor QB play.
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