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Old 01-15-2009, 02:30 PM  
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Missed this comment from Clark on QBs
just replayed it on 810, from petro interview

Clark talked about the fact that the Patriots drafted a QB almost every year, and went on to say "I'm sure Scott Pioli's teams will draft a QB every year...and we'll hit on one of them and that will be our franchise QB..."


2 obvious points:

1. Clark gets it - we have to have a QB, and we have to draft QBs to find the right one...doesn't mean we'll take one at #3, but it is a clear change from Carl...

2. Thigpen is not our franchise QB
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:08 PM   #106
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did you see that they are speculating that his deal will be bigger than big bro's
Yeah, and all Simms would say is "Well, if he can get it."

Which you could tell was the diplomatic way of saying, "There's no way in hell he's worth it."
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:08 PM   #107
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Yeah, and all Simms would say is "Well, if he can get it."

Which you could tell was the diplomatic way of saying, "There's no way in hell he's worth it."
INSANE if you ask me
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #108
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If you take a OT with a top 5 pick and he ends up playing guard that is a pretty crippling pick...

And also if you're picking that high you're already pretty well crippled.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:21 PM   #109
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If you take a OT with a top 5 pick and he ends up playing guard that is a pretty crippling pick...

And also if you're picking that high you're already pretty well crippled.
No, it's not, because your still getting some value out of the pick, and he's not single-handedly stalling your offense.

And you continue to fail to realize that I'm talking about CONTINUING to be crippled. Even if you've missed with a high pick at another position, you should still be able to improve the team.

A bust at QB all but guarantees you're going to continue to suck.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:22 PM   #110
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He was the last.

2nd round 32nd selection Drew Brees Purdue San Diego Chargers

Take a look at 2001
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...?type=position
Uh, Dude?

The 32nd selection in the 2001 NFL Draft was the 1st selection of the 2nd round, not the last selection of the 1st round.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:27 PM   #111
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No, it's not, because your still getting some value out of the pick, and he's not single-handedly stalling your offense.

And you continue to fail to realize that I'm talking about CONTINUING to be crippled. Even if you've missed with a high pick at another position, you should still be able to improve the team.

A bust at QB all but guarantees you're going to continue to suck.
I just disagree with that, if you're top 5 pick OT ends up at guard that's bad..now you got this super expensive guard who was drafted way to high.

I also don't think the whole "well if he sucks he can be moved and be ok here" should ever be weighed when drafting, especially in drafting to 5.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:29 PM   #112
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Uh, Dude?

The 32nd selection in the 2001 NFL Draft was the 1st selection of the 2nd round, not the last selection of the 1st round.
he thought it was the last pick of the 2nd round, he forgot that there were only 31 teams then
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:40 PM   #113
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he thought it was the last pick of the 2nd round, he forgot that there were only 31 teams then
32 still doesn't equal 62 or 64.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:44 PM   #114
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32 still doesn't equal 62 or 64.
he thought it was the 32nd pick in the 2nd round which would actually be the 64th
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:47 PM   #115
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he thought it was the 32nd pick in the 2nd round which would actually be the 64th
Which in this case, would make it the third round.

Who's on first again?
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:48 PM   #116
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Which in this case, would make it the third round.

Who's on first again?
how 32 teams 32 picks 32nd pick in the 2nd round would be the 64th and last pick in round 2, once again he didnt realize there were only 31 teams
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The Patriots don't draft a QB every other year in order to try to strike gold.

They do it to create competition at the position. The team philosophy is to always be trying to improve the 53-man roster. No position is safe, and everyone is ranked.

I suspect Pioli will institute the same policy for you. Also expect him to target players that are versatile, and can play more than one position.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:08 PM   #119
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I think Stafford could be the most solid prospect in this class and I'm just not sold on Sanchez yet. With that being said, Thigpen's upside would make it an extremely difficult decision for Pioli. Do we wait a year and see if Tyler matures or do we go ahead and draft a qb? Is this another year of drafting the best available player?

I'm not totally opposed to trading down for two 1st rounders either. Do any teams have two 1st round picks this year?
Anytime you have a chance to draft a franchise QB you do it. If you end up with two franchise QBs, you either hang on to both for a few years (Packers) or you trade one (Chargers). Either way, you win.
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Yeah, this seems clear to me, we ARE NOT drafting a quarterback in this 1st round of this draft.
"Clear" based on what?
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