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Old 01-23-2009, 08:59 AM   #1
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I don't think Pioli worries about the good will and credibility he has with the fans. Winning or losing will dictate that. I'm sure he has a plan and he knows exactly what he wants. If Herm stays that means he didn't see a guy he thought would be good enough to give a contract to.
In any case, I really hope he doesn't give a flying rats ass what anyone here or any other message board think.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:01 AM   #2
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I don't think Pioli worries about the good will and credibility he has with the fans. Winning or losing will dictate that. I'm sure he has a plan and he knows exactly what he wants. If Herm stays that means he didn't see a guy he thought would be good enough to give a contract to.
In any case, I really hope he doesn't give a flying rats ass what anyone here or any other message board think.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:33 AM   #3
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:16 PM   #4
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I don't think Pioli worries about the good will and credibility he has with the fans. Winning or losing will dictate that. I'm sure he has a plan and he knows exactly what he wants. If Herm stays that means he didn't see a guy he thought would be good enough to give a contract to.
In any case, I really hope he doesn't give a flying rats ass what anyone here or any other message board think.
EXACTLY! The Pats made all kinds of unpopular moves and didn't care what the fans thought. Heck, even hiring Bill Belichick was unpopular at the time. That worked out okay.

It is funny to see how many people actually think the Chiefs care about what we think.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:38 PM   #5
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Heck, even hiring Bill Belichick was unpopular at the time. That worked out okay.
So few people remember this. Belichick was at near-Herm levels of derision when he left the Browns. It softened somewhat after he had success with the Jets - but still the opinion of most fans and media was "great coordinator, terrible head coach". It was repeated ad nauseum as so much NFL conventional wisdom is.

When you read about Belichick the thing you find is that he didn't really change much from Cleveland to New York - it's just that the personnel got better.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:46 PM   #6
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EXACTLY! The Pats made all kinds of unpopular moves and didn't care what the fans thought. Heck, even hiring Bill Belichick was unpopular at the time. That worked out okay.

It is funny to see how many people actually think the Chiefs care about what we think.
You can make unpopular moves if you have a winning team. If you have a new/refurbished stadium that you want to fill up then public perception and reaction may be a factor they want to take into account.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:48 PM   #7
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You can make unpopular moves if you have a winning team. If you have a new/refurbished stadium that you want to fill up then public perception and reaction may be a factor they want to take into account.
They didn't have a winning team... just because you have one now doesn't mean you always have been one...
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:00 PM   #8
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They didn't have a winning team... just because you have one now doesn't mean you always have been one...
Some of the Patriots moves, like cutting popular players, occurred after they started winning.

Plus, the Pats weren't a bad team when Belichick took over. They were in the playoffs 3/4 years prior to Belichick and the year before he took over they were .500.
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:30 PM   #9
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:34 PM   #10
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Is Pioli at the Senior Bowl yet? I take it there have been no sightings of either Herm or Pioli down there?
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:51 PM   #11
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You can make unpopular moves if you have a winning team. If you have a new/refurbished stadium that you want to fill up then public perception and reaction may be a factor they want to take into account.
Didn't most people on this board bitch and bitch about Carl only making decisions in order to fill the stadium? It seems that posters are wanting Pioli to act more like Carl everyday.

The Patriots way is to do it your way on your schedule and everyone else, including the NFL office/fans/other teams, be damned. If you do your job right then everything else takes care of itself.
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Old 01-23-2009, 12:52 PM   #12
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You can make unpopular moves if you have a winning team. If you have a new/refurbished stadium that you want to fill up then public perception and reaction may be a factor they want to take into account.
The Patriots weren't a winning team when they hired BB were they?
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