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Old 01-26-2009, 10:31 PM   #1
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How much say did he have in personnel decisions, though? Being an "offensive guy," it seems odd that he wouldn't have had a huge say in whom the team would draft on that side of the ball, especially at QB.

He's got to own this right? Talking strictly about player acquisitions, I'm not sure I see the difference in excusing Billick for the offensive failings and excusing Herm for some of the defensive failings in KC. Carl just didn't get the right players. Herm put too much faith in Gun. See what I mean?

I don't know that much about the Ravens, so perhaps someone could tell me where I'm going wrong.

In no way am I comparing Herm and BB as far as game-day strategy, just to be extra clear.
I've followed the Ravens as closely as any NFL team not named "Chiefs" since Billick was hired.

Billick and his coaches gave Newsome and the staff suggestions, but ultimately, it was always Newsome's call. Billick gave Newsome free-reign after getting pissed about a trade with Atlanta that sent Baltimore's 2nd round pick in 1999 to the Falcons for their 1st in 2000.

Atlanta ended up sucking ass in 2000, and the Ravens turned that pick into Jamal Lewis.

From that moment on, Billick always deferred to Newsome on personnel matters.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:34 PM   #2
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I've followed the Ravens as closely as any NFL team not named "Chiefs" since Billick was hired.

Billick and his coaches gave Newsome and the staff suggestions, but ultimately, it was always Newsome's call. Billick gave Newsome free-reign after getting pissed about a trade with Atlanta that sent Baltimore's 2nd round pick in 1999 to the Falcons for their 1st in 2000.

Atlanta ended up sucking ass in 2000, and the Ravens turned that pick into Jamal Lewis.

From that moment on, Billick always deferred to Newsome on personnel matters.
Great information. I didn't know any of this.

I follow Baltimore only so much as they're covered on the Sunday pre-game shows.

Sounds like my perception of BB might be completely ****ing wrong.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:40 PM   #3
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Great information. I didn't know any of this.

I follow Baltimore only so much as they're covered on the Sunday pre-game shows.

Sounds like my perception of BB might be completely ****ing wrong.
If you like to read, I highly recommend "Next Man Up" by John Feinstein.

He spends a season inside the Ravens organization - all access.

Really good read, IMO.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:41 PM   #4
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If you like to read, I highly recommend "Next Man Up" by John Feinstein.

He spends a season inside the Ravens organization - all access.

Really good read, IMO.
I'm a reader.

I'll check it out. Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:45 PM   #5
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If you like to read, I highly recommend "Next Man Up" by John Feinstein.

He spends a season inside the Ravens organization - all access.

Really good read, IMO.
Does he ask Billick why he wears a leather jacket on the sideline? Is it to look like he's cool?
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:47 PM   #6
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Does he ask Billick why he wears a leather jacket on the sideline? Is it to look like he's cool?
if only he had long lustrous hair. then, that jacket would work.
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if only he had long lustrous hair. then, that jacket would work.
You shutup you, how'd you know I wear leather jackets?
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Old 01-26-2009, 11:10 PM   #8
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You shutup you, how'd you know I wear leather jackets?
eh, you seem the douchy long haired leather jacket type.
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