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[Nightfyre]

Would you trade Brian Waters for Matt Ryan right now, jeff?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Would you trade Brian Waters for Matt Ryan right now, jeff?

LOL, boy that's tough......I'd trade Brian Waters for a number of QB's.

QB>Guard by only about a million points.

[jeffp12]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Would you trade Brian Waters for Matt Ryan right now, jeff?

Brian Waters is 31, so hell yes if it was an option, but it never would be. So do you mean if they were both rookies? I don't know, depends on the situation, how easily could we replace waters, what depth do we have, whats the QB situation? If it was the draft and we're considering who to pick it'd be close. I really like Matt Ryan because he played at BC where he wasn't well protected like Sanchez was at USC, the guy was succeeding despite not being protected well, that's the mark of greatness, so I would probably have taken him. A qb succeeding without protection is a difference maker. A qb succeeding while well protected hasn't proved himself to me yet.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

Brian Waters is 31, so hell yes if it was an option, but it never would be. So do you mean if they were both rookies? I don't know, depends on the situation, how easily could we replace waters, what depth do we have, whats the QB situation? If it was the draft and we're considering who to pick it'd be close. I really like Matt Ryan because he played at BC where he wasn't well protected like Sanchez was at USC, the guy was succeeding despite not being protected well, that's the mark of greatness, so I would probably have taken him. A qb succeeding without protection is a difference maker. A qb succeeding while well protected hasn't proved himself to me yet.

Obviously you have not watched enough SC. Also if they were both rookies, you could draft waters in the 2nd round to 3rd round even if you knew exactly who he would become.

[jeffp12]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Obviously you have not watched enough SC. Also if they were both rookies, you could draft waters in the 2nd round to 3rd round even if you knew exactly who he would become.

They have an immense talent base, they have so many weapons and an awesome defense. Sanchez was definitely not pressured as much as Ryan was at BC.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

They have an immense talent base, they have so many weapons and an awesome defense. Sanchez was definitely not pressured as much as Ryan was at BC.

I'm an SC fan, I'd love to hear who you think the immense talent on offense is, defense sure, offense no.

[jeffp12]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm an SC fan, I'd love to hear who you think the immense talent on offense is, defense sure, offense no.

I'm sorry, but there's no way Sanchez was in as tough a spot as Ryan was at BC. Maybe he didn't have top prospects around him like Leinart did but it's freakin USC they recruit like nobody's business. BC on the other hand...not so much.

I would much rather be taking a guy from I-AA Delaware who wasn't surrounded by one of the best teams in the country.

Look at the record

last year Flacco from Delaware, Ryan from BC both are instant hits.

2007 Jamarcus from powerhouse LSU hasn't done much, Brady Quinn at Notre Dame, I know they have been sucking, but they still recruit very well.

2006 you have Vince Young from Texas, Matt Leinart from USC, and who's the successful one? Cutler from Vanderbilt..

Eli went to Ole Miss, a good team, but in a strong SEC, he was certainly tested.

Rivers went to NC State, they're not that great.

Roethlisberger went to Miami of Ohio.

Kyle Boller went to CAl, Rex Grossman Florida. Not so good.

Carson Palmer is the exception.

Recent history doesn't favor the QBs from top schools.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

I'm sorry, but there's no way Sanchez was in as tough a spot as Ryan was at BC. Maybe he didn't have top prospects around him like Leinart did but it's freakin USC they recruit like nobody's business. BC on the other hand...not so much.

I would much rather be taking a guy from I-AA Delaware who wasn't surrounded by one of the best teams in the country.

Look at the record

last year Flacco from Delaware, Ryan from BC both are instant hits.

2007 Jamarcus from powerhouse LSU hasn't done much, Brady Quinn at Notre Dame, I know they have been sucking, but they still recruit very well.

2006 you have Vince Young from Texas, Matt Leinart from USC, and who's the successful one? Cutler from Vanderbilt..

Eli went to Ole Miss, a good team, but in a strong SEC, he was certainly tested.

Rivers went to NC State, they're not that great.

Roethlisberger went to Miami of Ohio.

Kyle Boller went to CAl, Rex Grossman Florida. Not so good.

Carson Palmer is the exception.

Recent history doesn't favor the QBs from top schools.

Way to not take circumstance and situation into the factor here lol, that's one of the funniest things I've ever read you want me to pick it apart because I'm pretty sure you realize how flawed it is...

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by jeffp12

Brian Waters is 31, so hell yes if it was an option, but it never would be. So do you mean if they were both rookies? I don't know, depends on the situation, how easily could we replace waters, what depth do we have, whats the QB situation? If it was the draft and we're considering who to pick it'd be close. I really like Matt Ryan because he played at BC where he wasn't well protected like Sanchez was at USC, the guy was succeeding despite not being protected well, that's the mark of greatness, so I would probably have taken him. A qb succeeding without protection is a difference maker. A qb succeeding while well protected hasn't proved himself to me yet.

This is really funny, Mark Sanchez got hit quite a bit...you're looking at the SC name nothing more I bet you honestly can't name the starting SC line or their years of experience..there isn't superior NFL talent all across that offense, without Sanchez it will be reflected.

And I'm sorry a guard is much easier replaced than nearly any other position.