Thigpen on 810

[Mi_chief_fan]

"Excited, he's (Haley) got some good qualities for a coach."

"Watched the Cardinals alot, impressed, looking forward to him bringing his scheme to KC."

"It's a fun offense: you can run the spread,I-formation, play action and go deep."

THinks KC's receivers will thrive with Haley, likes the talent at WR.

"It's great to have an offensive minded coach like Brad CHildress in MN."

Would like to see Gailey stay

"THey might clash in some ways, but i'd like to see him run the offense this year."

"I feel like right now i'm the QB for the CHiefs until i'm told otherwise."

"I'd hate to see TG go, having him here wil help us win."

"I'll try to caontact Tony after the Pro-Bowl. In this system, the TE will get the ball."

On LJ:
"As a player you always want to be happy, obviously he doesn't want to be here, that's his perogative. I would hope none of the teammates would hold a grudge for what he said if he does come back. He's really good when he wants to be."

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Based on what? Based on the fact he led the Chiefs to ONE win as a starter? Based on the fact he completely melted down on that final drive against the Dolphins with the opportunity to tie the game? Based on the fact that Thigpen, along with the rest of Herm's team decided not to show up for the final game at Cincy?

So the Giants should have given up on Eli Manning when the Giants only one 1 out of his first 7 games? It's not about Thigpen being good or bad. It's not about resting your future on him--the Chiefs need to bring in another QB regardless of what we think of Thigpen. It's about people like you that are convinced that a QB only deserves a half season to improve.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It's about people like you that are convinced that a QB only deserves a half season to improve.

No it is people like him that use this team and this place as a vehicle to listen to themselves bitch. It is easy to be a hindsight is 20\20 internet message board sports fan. Ask DeBerg.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by Marco Polo

I know several Vikings fans and they all hate Childress. They think his offense is much too vanilla, kind of like what we had as an offense before they opened it up.

I agree. R2P2

[Brock]

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

Yup.

I don't know of Thigpen is the QBOTF, but he sure as hell deserves a chance at it.

He deserves a chance at it, with some serious competition brought in.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Brock

He deserves a chance at it, with some serious competition brought in.

every player on the team should have serious competition for a starting spot.

[PastorMikH]

Originally Posted by talastan

Thigpen has earned the right to compete. Whether he gets the starting nod or not is up to the staff. ANYONE who says he hasn't earned the right to compete is completely shortsighted.

Agreed.

Thigpen came from a Div 2 college - where he was the college's first QB EVER. He led that team to something like 30-8 record. Coming to the Chiefs he stepped in, within a few games was already catching on and putting us into positions to actually compete (had his HC not blown some calls from the sideline IMO, we would have won several more games). He did all of this with, IMO, had one of the worst QB coaches in the NFL. Some help with his footwork from a decent QB coach and I think he could be the QB everyone is hoping we'll draft with our 3rd pick.

I DO NOT have a problem with him having to compete with legit competition for his position during the off season. I do think if we spend the 3rd pick on a QB, invest the $ we'll have to pay a QB pick that high, even if Thigpen is clearly better, the other guy will have the edge for starting.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

If another QB comes in and plays better than him then fine...I want the Chiefs to be better. But dismissing what Thigpen has done on the field sounds ridiculous.

The guy made chicken salad from chicken shit.

Sir, I know Casey Printers. And Tyler Thigpen is no Casey Printers.

Seriously though, Thigpen makes bad reads, is constantly over or under throwing his receivers (and I'm talking about the last couple of games last season, where this situation was downright embarrassing), leads his primary receiver way too much, doesn't have a good touch on his passes and is quite inaccurate on the deep passes (the two that he threw). I'd like to have a guy like Thigpen as the thrid QB - maybe. Use him as a fourth wideout, the snap holder on field goals, extra points, etc., but he has not shown the capability of being a starting QB in the NFL.

He got cut by Minnesota for Christs sake! Minnesota! And the Chiefs start him! And (some of) the fans truly want him back as our QB! Don't you tell me that we don't need a goddamn quarterback with our first pick! Other than Detroit, there isn't a team in the NFL that doesn't need a quarterback more than the Chiefs. On every conceivable level we need a quarterback.

[FAX]

So ... do I have this right?

We're going to draft Sanchez ostensibly anointing him as our QBOTF ... but since El Armo is a rookie, we play Thiggy and develop him further instead of giving valuable PT to our future quarterback? Is that the plan here?

Or, are we talking about pinning our hopes on Thiggy as our QBOTF and passing on a quarterback in the draft altogether?

FAX

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

... He got cut by Minnesota for Christs sake! Minnesota! And the Chiefs start him! ...

I thought MN was trying to sneak him onto their practice squad and we picked him up. That's not exactly "cutting" the guy.

FAX

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Put points on the board. Do you want Thigpen to play defense as well?

By my quick count 20+ points 7 out of the 12 games he played in.

3 of them 30+ points.

That is putting your team in a position to win games.

What about that final drive against the Dolphins... in probably the most defining moment of the season for Thigpen. The defense forced the Dolphins to turn the ball over and Thigpen had the opportunity to drive the offense down the field to tie the game with a touchdown.

How did Thigpen respond under the only major pressure situation he was faced with all season, the only real situation he was in to lead the Chiefs to tie and send a game into OT? He melted down... completely choked. First down- incomplete pass (not even close to the WR), Second down- another wild incompletion, Third down- Sacked (held on to the ball too long looking for Tony Gonzalez), Fourth down- INT.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by FAX

I thought MN was trying to sneak him onto their practice squad and we picked him up. That's not exactly "cutting" the guy.

FAX

That is exactly what happened. That is also what most teams try to do with 7th round draft picks/developmental players.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by FAX

Or, are we talking about pinning our hopes on Thigpen as our QBOTF and passing on a quarterback in the draft altogether?

FAX

That is what the Thigpen-homers want to happen, but Pioli and Haley are too smart to do that.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by FAX

So ... do I have this right?

We're going to draft Sanchez ostensibly anointing him as our QBOTF ... but since El Armo is a rookie, we play Thiggy and develop him further instead of giving valuable PT to our future quarterback? Is that the plan here?

Or, are we talking about pinning our hopes on Thiggy as our QBOTF and passing on a quarterback in the draft altogether?

FAX

we have no idea what they are going to do


i assume we will have at least 1 new quarterback on the roster next year ..... probably 2.

i assume Croyle is gone cuz he just can't stay healthy. Even the smallest hit leads to a big injury.

Huard's attitude last year sucked but maybe with the new coaches he gets another year.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Laz

we have no idea what they are going to do


i assume we will have at least 1 new quarterback on the roster next year ..... probably 2.

i assume Croyle is gone cuz he just can't stay healthy. Even the smallest hit leads to a big injury.

Huard's attitude last year sucked but maybe with the new coaches he gets another year.

No Huard is done in KC. He carries one of the bigger contracts and his production certainly doesn't justify his contract.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Sir, I know Casey Printers. And Tyler Thigpen is no Casey Printers.

Seriously though, Thigpen makes bad reads, is constantly over or under throwing his receivers (and I'm talking about the last couple of games last season, where this situation was downright embarrassing), leads his primary receiver way too much, doesn't have a good touch on his passes and is quite inaccurate on the deep passes (the two that he threw). I'd like to have a guy like Thigpen as the thrid QB - maybe. Use him as a fourth wideout, the snap holder on field goals, extra points, etc., but he has not shown the capability of being a starting QB in the NFL.

He got cut by Minnesota for Christs sake! Minnesota! And the Chiefs start him! And (some of) the fans truly want him back as our QB! Don't you tell me that we don't need a goddamn quarterback with our first pick! Other than Detroit, there isn't a team in the NFL that doesn't need a quarterback more than the Chiefs. On every conceivable level we need a quarterback.

Trent Green was cut, so was Warner, Brunell, Hasslebeck, and the list goes on.

Just because one person doesn't work out one place doesn't mean he can't succeed at another.