NFL Draft QB, RB, and WR Day at the combine - Page 12

Coogs · 02-22-2009, 09:54 AM

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**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

???

The "pressure" got to him? What pressure? He wasn't in pads, he didn't have 300 lb linemen trying to rip his head off, it wasn't the 4th quarter of a game.....if anything, it shows he doesn't do well in awkward, non-game situations, and even that is a HUGE reach considering everyone is making conclusions based on one day of practice.

uh, milkman said that in this thread.

Pablo · 02-22-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

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Ok.

Somebody said that. I didn't.

eazyb81 · 02-22-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I'm not worked up at all. And if anything, those 16 games didn't solidify him as a top 3 pick, IMO. And he didn't do anything at the combine to change that. If this is just trash, then why bother with it? I'm sure if he would have made all of his throws, the same people on here saying it doesn't matter would be on here telling others about how great he looked.

Hell, earlier in this thread a jab was taken at people because a "source" said Stafford looked good on the chalkboard. I don't think the absurdity is just coming from one direction here.

I never said it was. Of course everyone has their own biases that they try to push.

My whole point is that it is absolutely absurd to feel that 16 games were not enough to evaluate Sanchez, but this one day of practice seals the deal for you or anyone on him. That doesn't make sense in my mind.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Show me a scouting report that questions his arm strength.

Todd McDumbass.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

???

The "pressure" got to him? What pressure? He wasn't in pads, he didn't have 300 lb linemen trying to rip his head off, it wasn't the 4th quarter of a game.....if anything, it shows he doesn't do well in awkward, non-game situations, and even that is a HUGE reach considering everyone is making conclusions based on one day of practice.

No, Milkman said he was under more pressure than the other QB's that looked much better than he did. Now, it is everyone's biggest day in their career, but Sanchez was under much more pressure for some reason.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I never said it was. Of course everyone has their own biases that they try to push.

My whole point is that it is absolutely absurd to feel that 16 games were not enough to evaluate Sanchez, but this one day of practice seals the deal for you or anyone on him. That doesn't make sense in my mind.

The issue wtih 16 games is more about Sanchez's experience, not the ability to evaluate him. Junior QB's typically struggle... much less guys with 16 games of starting experience.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

No, Milkman said he was under more pressure than the other QB's that looked much better than he did. Now, it is everyone's biggest day in their career, but Sanchez was under much more pressure for some reason.

You really are trying to not see any side but your own, aren't you?

I conceded that this workout could hurt him.

You refuse to even acknowledge any viewpoint but your own.

gta0012 · 02-22-2009, 01:24 PM

So now who do we pick?? Crabtree...injured...Sanchez...big gamble. This draft SUCKS for a 3rd pick!

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

LOL. No, the combine doesn't matter at all. Oh, and of course these drills only matter for the WR's.

But, it is just amazing.... how this guys physical abilty would do nothing but help him... only it didn't.

You are an idiot if you think that those 10 throws by a quarterback to guys he's never played with before, mean rat shit to a scout.

If you take a 5 step drop to throw an out and the ball comes out as soon as your foot plants on the last step, the speed at which the WR runs his route and makes his cut makes all the difference. If the WR makes a bad cut and the ball goes nowhere near him, he's not the one who looks bad, even if he's the one who made the mistake.

eazyb81 · 02-22-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

uh, milkman said that in this thread.

Okay....I'm not milkman. I think if anything it was a lack of pressure.

For many people, it's hard to get pumped up or focused when practicing for a game or studying for a test, but when the big moment comes then it's go time and it all clicks.

All I'm saying is that this one day of practice throws should not override or even come close to matching his actual performance in game situations.

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I never said it was. Of course everyone has their own biases that they try to push.

My whole point is that it is absolutely absurd to feel that 16 games were not enough to evaluate Sanchez, but this one day of practice seals the deal for you or anyone on him. That doesn't make sense in my mind.

You're kind of putting words in my mouth. I said I didn't think there was a good enough sample size to evaluate him. I was hoping he would come out today and impress, much like Flacco did last year. His performance definitely didn't do anything to help him, so if there were already people who had question marks, why should they feel better after today? Other than the fact that he at least competed, which I like. It doesn't seal the deal or anything like that, but I don't think he is a homerun pick either. I will be fine if Pioli/Haley like him though.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-22-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Todd McDumbass.

Well, Todd McDumbass looked pretty smart with the way that Sanchez performed. I expected a shorter, more compact delivery.

Nothing about this guy says pro. From his refusal to listen to his coach and his family, to his decision to hire his brother as his agent.

I hope the Chiefs don't draft him, but I will be curious to see how he does in his career.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Okay....I'm not milkman. I think if anything it was a lack of pressure.

For many people, it's hard to get pumped up or focused when practicing for a game or studying for a test, but when the big moment comes then it's go time and it all clicks.

All I'm saying is that this one day of practice throws should not override or even come close to matching his actual performance in game situations.

I thought it was a case of pressing, because his mechanics, which are usually near flawless were really off.

But you make a good point.

**doomy3** · 02-22-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You are an idiot if you think that those 10 throws by a quarterback to guys he's never played with before, mean rat shit to a scout.

If you take a 5 step drop to throw an out and the ball comes out as soon as your foot plants on the last step, the speed at which the WR runs his route and makes his cut makes all the difference. If the WR makes a bad cut and the ball goes nowhere near him, he's not the one who looks bad, even if he's the one who made the mistake.

Hamas, let's be honest.

If he would have looked great today, you would have been among the many who would have been on this thread talking about how he cemented himself as a top pick.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Well, Todd McDumbass looked pretty smart with the way that Sanchez performed. I expected a shorter, more compact delivery.

Nothing about this guy says pro. From his refusal to listen to his coach and his family, to his decision to hire his brother as his agent.

I hope the Chiefs don't draft him, but I will be curious to see how he does in his career.

I'm done with you ****head.

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