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Old 02-22-2009, 01:30 PM   #1
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You are an idiot if you think that those 10 throws by a quarterback to guys he's never played with before, mean rat shit to a scout.

If you take a 5 step drop to throw an out and the ball comes out as soon as your foot plants on the last step, the speed at which the WR runs his route and makes his cut makes all the difference. If the WR makes a bad cut and the ball goes nowhere near him, he's not the one who looks bad, even if he's the one who made the mistake.
If we were talking about game situations, you would be right. Because the WR is running to uncover himself and the ball must be thrown often before the QB can even see the WR.

However, in this situation, the cones are ste up as for when the WR's are to break, and the QB gets to watch him the entire route and time his throw accordingly. Sanchez's throws weren't even close most of the time.

I thought we were watching film of Tyler Thigpen out there.

Just more evidence that the franchise QB crowd will justify anything they have to in order to feel good about drafting a QB at #3.
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:33 PM   #2
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If we were talking about game situations, you would be right. Because the WR is running to uncover himself and the ball must be thrown often before the QB can even see the WR.

However, in this situation, the cones are ste up as for when the WR's are to break, and the QB gets to watch him the entire route and time his throw accordingly. Sanchez's throws weren't even close most of the time.

I thought we were watching film of Tyler Thigpen out there.

Just more evidence that the franchise QB crowd will justify anything they have to in order to feel good about drafting a QB at #3.
No. QB pats the ball, WR starts his route. QB starts his drop, WR is running. QB hits his last step and lets it fly, the WR cuts when he gets to the cone.

Keep in mind, I'm not making an excuse for Sanchez's throws, which were inaccurate, but your idea of how the route progresses is incorrect.

Wow. Great 40 from Ian Johnson. Thought he was more of a 4.5-4.6 guy.
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:36 PM   #3
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No. QB pats the ball, WR starts his route. QB starts his drop, WR is running. QB hits his last step and lets it fly, the WR cuts when he gets to the cone.

Wow. Great 40 from Ian Johnson. Thought he was more of a 4.5-4.6 guy.
Actually, it depends on the drill. He missed two throws without even dropping. They did the first couple throws without dropping back at all.

Then, there is the five step drop where they must throw imediately. However, they get to watch the WR during that time and time their throw accoringly, and there are CONES to know where the WR is cutting. (throw for the cones and if the WR isn't there, at least look on target)

Then, there is the seven step drop with more time to watch the WR.

Oh, and finally, on the post corner, there was a hitch in as well, to watch even longer.
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Old 02-22-2009, 01:38 PM   #4
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Actually, it depends on the drill. He missed two throws without even dropping. They did the first couple throws without dropping back at all.

Then, there is the five step drop where they must throw imediately. However, they get to watch the WR during that time and time their throw accoringly, and there are CONES to know where the WR is cutting. (throw for the cones and if the WR isn't there, at least look on target)

Then, there is the seven step drop with more time to watch the WR.

Oh, and finally, on the post corner, there was a hitch in as well, to watch even longer.
I was pretty obviously talking about the out routes
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I was pretty obviously talking about the out routes
Of course, because the other routes don't matter, right?
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Of course, because the other routes don't matter, right?
Do you want me to break down every ****ing route by text?

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Actually, it depends on the drill. He missed two throws without even dropping. They did the first couple throws without dropping back at all.
If anything...not dropping back will hurt a QB's accuracy. It's a process and motion they get used to.
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Wow. Great 40 from Ian Johnson. Thought he was more of a 4.5-4.6 guy.
The Boise State kid?
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