NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 26

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

Chiefshrink · 02-22-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Hmm....let's make a call:

Do we draft based on Combine performance or Game Time performance?

Let's ask Pioli!

I think we ALL know the answer to that one, yes.

Hmmmmmmmmm.....ala Matt Leinert!!! I'm sure he has many good 'college' game time performances. Can't handle the NFL at this point. Palmer did though and it is all a crap shoot!!!

milkman · 02-22-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NickAthanFan

If the guy has a great combine you don't draft him cause he's a workout warrior, if his combine is bad you don't draft him cause he sucks.

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**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Hmmmmmmmmm.....ala Matt Leinert!!! I'm sure he has many good 'college' game time performances. Can't handle the NFL at this point. Palmer did though and it is all a crap shoot!!!

Chiefshrink · 02-22-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Sorry man, your track record kind of speaks for itself; tapes please.

Go watch on the tube for yourself! Track record? Don't remember ever having a conversation with you at all but whatever

You a Sanchez homer?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-22-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Hmmmmmmmmm.....ala Matt Leinert!!! I'm sure he has many good 'college' game time performances. Can't handle the NFL at this point. Palmer did though and it is all a crap shoot!!!

That was quite possibly the dumbest ****ing take I've heard yet. You may have in fact surpassed Pioli Zombie and set a new level for the bar.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm pretty sure we need demonpenz to draw a picture for him.

Chiefshrink · 02-22-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Are you really this ****ing stupid?

Just watch. If his Pro Day is not significantly any better he will go in the 2nd at the earliest.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm pretty sure we need demonpenz to draw a picture for him.

I'm not even sure if Airwolf can save the day here, but I'd like to see the effort.

Chiefshrink · 02-22-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm pretty sure we need demonpenz to draw a picture for him.

You saw it as well and he did not perform. What's your beef? You a Sanchez homer as well?

Chiefnj2 · 02-22-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I believe you, but I still want to see just how badly.

It's strange that it was at least decent enough for McDouche to praise him. It couldn't have been a complete cluster****, right?

It wasn't a cluster**** in the least, he just didn't stand out from the crowd like you would expect from a top 10 QB. His arm didn't appear to be any stronger than middle of the pack guys and his accuracy on the long ball left a lot to be desired.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Just watch. If his Pro Day is not significantly any better he will go in the 2nd at the earliest.

Please stop with this crap.

Josh ****ing Freeman will go in round 1. You realize this, no? If this enormous but otherwise worthless lump of shit goes round 1, Sanchez is a lock. Period.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It wasn't a cluster**** in the least, he just didn't stand out from the crowd like you would expect from a top 10 QB. His arm didn't appear to be any stronger than middle of the pack guys and his accuracy on the long ball left a lot to be desired.

Well, it certainly sounds like a disappointing day for Sanchez at the very least. Some of the reports have been more biting than this, though.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

You saw it as well and he did not perform. What's your beef? You a Sanchez homer as well?

This is my beef.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Please stop with this crap.

Josh ****ing Freeman will go in round 1. You realize this, no? If this enormous but otherwise worthless lump of shit goes round 1, Sanchez is a lock. Period.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-22-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Just watch. If his Pro Day is not significantly any better he will go in the 2nd at the earliest.

Look at this.
Look at how stupid you are.

milkman · 02-22-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Well, it certainly sounds like a disappointing day for Sanchez at the very least. Some of the reports have been more biting than this, though.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

I think that nj hit it right on the head.

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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