Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2009, 07:32 AM   #1
SenselessChiefsFan SenselessChiefsFan is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $10005450
Quote:
Originally Posted by arc View Post
To be intellectually honest, he should have broken the percentages down in all areas of the draft, too. Who's to say that the top 5 isn't the safest spot to get a QB, percentage-wise, than anywhere else in the draft, despite the low number?
Top five should be safest spot in the draft to pick ANY position. It is when you have your pick of everyone in the draft class. The percentages would go down with any position as you drop in the draft.
Posts: 5,540
SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 09:01 AM   #2
DaKCMan AP DaKCMan AP is offline
Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity
 
DaKCMan AP's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Florida
Casino cash: $5584952
Quote:
Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan View Post
Top five should be safest spot in the draft to pick ANY position. It is when you have your pick of everyone in the draft class. The percentages would go down with any position as you drop in the draft.
Some positions drop off at a higher rate than others.
__________________
https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/signaturepics/sigpic78_6.gif
Posts: 35,714
DaKCMan AP has disabled reputation
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 09:44 AM   #3
SenselessChiefsFan SenselessChiefsFan is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $10005450
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP View Post
Some positions drop off at a higher rate than others.
The other part of this is that there is MORE opportunity for nearly every other position than QB.

There is only one starting QB in the NFL.

Guys get better with experience and a QB doesn't get on the field unless he is the best QB on the roster.

A WR gets on the field as the fourth best WR. A linebacker can get playing time on special teams and situational defense. An OT, may move to guard.

The third or fourth corner would get time on the field. The third or fourth safety can get time on the field.

That is why, to ME, experience in college is a very important piece of the QB picture. Mainly, it will be very tough for that QB to overcome a lack of experience in the NFL.

Because it is very hard to get a QB experience when he gets to the NFL if he isn't ready.
Posts: 5,540
SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 09:48 AM   #4
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7129572
Quote:
Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan View Post
The other part of this is that there is MORE opportunity for nearly every other position than QB.

There is only one starting QB in the NFL.

Guys get better with experience and a QB doesn't get on the field unless he is the best QB on the roster.

A WR gets on the field as the fourth best WR. A linebacker can get playing time on special teams and situational defense. An OT, may move to guard.

The third or fourth corner would get time on the field. The third or fourth safety can get time on the field.

That is why, to ME, experience in college is a very important piece of the QB picture. Mainly, it will be very tough for that QB to overcome a lack of experience in the NFL.

Because it is very hard to get a QB experience when he gets to the NFL if he isn't ready.
No one is debating any of that, with the exception of the last part of your post....yeah, it's difficult to get him in-game, on-field exp., but that doesn't mean that film study and working with the 2nd and 3rd teams offer no benefits. If they didn't, teams would just throw rookies to the wolves.

With regards to the first, the lack of good QBs and the difficulty in finding one is precisely why we are arguing for one of these two quarterbacks. They have all the tools that you could want for a franchise signal caller, and since we all lack precognition, we're going to have to take a leap of faith that they will work out at the NFL level, because going on what we know, they have the skillset that very few other people on this earth do.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 12:08 PM   #5
SenselessChiefsFan SenselessChiefsFan is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $10005450
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
No one is debating any of that, with the exception of the last part of your post....yeah, it's difficult to get him in-game, on-field exp., but that doesn't mean that film study and working with the 2nd and 3rd teams offer no benefits. If they didn't, teams would just throw rookies to the wolves.

With regards to the first, the lack of good QBs and the difficulty in finding one is precisely why we are arguing for one of these two quarterbacks. They have all the tools that you could want for a franchise signal caller, and since we all lack precognition, we're going to have to take a leap of faith that they will work out at the NFL level, because going on what we know, they have the skillset that very few other people on this earth do.
Um...no. Sanchez is 6'2" with an above average arm.

Sanchez will just be further behind the eight ball than even most junior QB's. He has to get experience, practice will only do so much. And then the point is can you get him that experience without killing his confidence.
Posts: 5,540
SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 12:12 PM   #6
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $8099900
Quote:
Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan View Post
Um...no. Sanchez is 6'2" with an above average arm.

Sanchez will just be further behind the eight ball than even most junior QB's. He has to get experience, practice will only do so much. And then the point is can you get him that experience without killing his confidence.
I don't think I buy that argument.

I'm of the opinion that these guys either have it or they don't.

But that's just a gut feeling at this point in time. Just like my feelings on both Stafford and Sanchez, it will change by this time tomorrow.

What a screwed up draft to be picking #3.
Posts: 104,421
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 09:17 AM   #7
Frosty Frosty is offline
Go Beavers!
 
Frosty's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Washington
Casino cash: $3358243
Quote:
Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan View Post
Top five should be safest spot in the draft to pick ANY position. It is when you have your pick of everyone in the draft class. The percentages would go down with any position as you drop in the draft.
Which is exactly what I was implying. Just because the number is low (29% or whatever) doesn't mean it isn't much worse later.
Posts: 14,541
Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 09:45 AM   #8
SenselessChiefsFan SenselessChiefsFan is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $10005450
Quote:
Originally Posted by arc View Post
Which is exactly what I was implying. Just because the number is low (29% or whatever) doesn't mean it isn't much worse later.
To me, that is just logic. It is worse for all positions.

The risk is also much less.
Posts: 5,540
SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.SenselessChiefsFan must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2009, 10:27 AM   #9
Frosty Frosty is offline
Go Beavers!
 
Frosty's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Washington
Casino cash: $3358243
Quote:
Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan View Post
The risk is also much less.
The reward can be considerably less, too. Personally, I'm not wanting "just a QB".
Posts: 14,541
Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Frosty 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:44 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.