If Curry is gone at the 3 spot...who do we take or what do we do?

[journeyscarab]

Say the Lions draft Curry, Rams draft Smith....do we take Monroe/Orakpo/or drop a few spots to get someone else?

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why the hell do you think I was so pissed about moving to a 3-4?

Oh, I agree.... also why I see the logic in Monroe. Albert can play all along the OL.

Not that I want that to happen, but I can definitely see it as a possibility, w/ Dorsey or Tyler moved to NT.

On top of that, our LB corps SUCKS. Vrabel is a great 2-year stopgap & player coach, but other than him we have a lot of ?? / holes to fill, especially in a 3-4.

[ChiefsCountry]

Hali and Tank will be gone, they dont fit the 3-4 at all.

[bdeg]

Tank could play end, at least as a backup, and eventually maybe NT.

[HC_Chief]

If that happens, we draft Raji and push out McBride/Tyler/Dorsey, has any other team failed as miserably drafting DL as KC?

This franchise has spent A LOT of high picks and $$ on DL, with very poor results to show for it. Exceptions exist to the rule of course (Jared Allen - but then we sent him packing. derrr)

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by HC_Chief

If that happens, we draft Raji and push out McBride/Tyler/Dorsey, has any other team failed as miserably drafting DL as KC?

It shows the stubborness to implement the 3-4 more than anything.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It shows the stubborness to implement the 3-4 more than anything.

I wouldn't say it's stubbornness. Every team Pioli has worked for during his tenure in the NFL ran the 3-4, so obviously it's the scheme that he knows best and feels is superior.

Would you really want him to abandon what he knows best just because we have a few scrub players from the league's worst defense that may not be perfect fits in the defensive scheme he knows inside and out?

Past draft picks are sunk costs. Yes, it sucks we may not get optimum value for them due to the defensive switch, but you don't avoid making the switch because of poor personnel decisions in the past.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea and he was suppose to be an LT and he's a giant disappointment so not really a good example.

You should tell the Cards he was always their LT, because they never said so, not even the day he was drafted. From the Cards website:

"With the Cards having a few players on the roster that can be tackles, Brown’s selection gives Whisenhunt the flexibility of seeing which side his new OT can line up on. He was a left tackle at Penn State, but nothing is set in stone right now. Whisenhunt said Brown looked comfortable on both sides of the line during previous workouts. This is an issue that will be addressed at the minicamp in two weeks, the OTAs in the following month or even at training camp.

“When you talk about character, when you talk about intensity, about the physical nature and how you play a football game on the field, he certainly embodies a lot of those qualities,” Whisenhunt said. “That’s on thing that really shows on the football field when he plays, and ultimately that’s what you look for.”"

What's funny is how Mecca comes out and says something without support and all the Meccasexuals back him up as a matter of habit. They must like the view, and he the feel.

[bdeg]

They put Levi Brown on the right side on purpose because Leinart is left-handed,therefore his blindside is the right.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Hali and Tank will be gone, they dont fit the 3-4 at all.

Tank could fit in as a RDE, but I think you can teach him to play NT. I just don't think he's a guy that can play every single snap at that position. So he'd be good backup depth for the position.

Hali would be gone, but he was never anything beyond a rotational DE anyway.

Turk and Dorsey would likely be the DEs. By the way, Brian Johnston is also a great fit for a 3-4 alignment.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

You should tell the Cards he was always their LT, because they never said so, not even the day he was drafted. From the Cards website:

"With the Cards having a few players on the roster that can be tackles, Brown’s selection gives Whisenhunt the flexibility of seeing which side his new OT can line up on. He was a left tackle at Penn State, but nothing is set in stone right now. Whisenhunt said Brown looked comfortable on both sides of the line during previous workouts. This is an issue that will be addressed at the minicamp in two weeks, the OTAs in the following month or even at training camp.

“When you talk about character, when you talk about intensity, about the physical nature and how you play a football game on the field, he certainly embodies a lot of those qualities,” Whisenhunt said. “That’s on thing that really shows on the football field when he plays, and ultimately that’s what you look for.”"

What's funny is how Mecca comes out and says something without support and all the Meccasexuals back him up as a matter of habit. They must like the view, and he the feel.

Nice try, dumbass.
bdeg summed that up perfectly.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It shows the stubborness to implement the 3-4 more than anything.

I don't think so. He should run the defense that he thinks he can excel with.

There was never a better time to consider a 3-4 alignment. The Chiefs need a ton of players to run a 4-3 effectively, let alone a 3-4. Yes, some players might get pushed out, but filling in the pieces becomes considerably easier. Finding LBs in a 3-4 is really easy. If you find a nose tackle, the rush end becomes easier too.

While I like Dorsey, he's not a guy you build a defense around.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

While I like Dorsey, he's not a guy you build a defense around.

Was Warren Sapp?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Was Warren Sapp?

Hmm... Interesting point. I take my statement back.

But regardless, Sapp was also surrounded by Brooks, Rice, Lynch, Ronde Barber, and an insanely good cast of defensive players. So while you're right, I stand by my point that the Chiefs are about as close to square 1 on defense as you can get. The only impact player that might have to change roles to a lesser one is Dorsey. The secondary stays the same and the only LB who deserves a starting spot, DJ, will have a strong role in a 3-4 defense too.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Hmm... Interesting point. I take my statement back.

But regardless, Sapp was also surrounded by Brooks, Rice, Lynch, Ronde Barber, and an insanely good cast of defensive players. So while you're right, I stand by my point that the Chiefs are about as close to square 1 on defense as you can get. The only impact player that might have to change roles to a lesser one is Dorsey. The secondary stays the same and the only LB who deserves a starting spot, DJ, will have a strong role in a 3-4 defense too.

Moving Dorsey to a 3-4 is like putting Chris Paul in the Triangle Offense or making Randy Johnson a pitch to contact hurler.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Moving Dorsey to a 3-4 is like putting Chris Paul in the Triangle Offense or making Randy Johnson a pitch to contact hurler.

Dorsey never performed like Randy Johnson.

I'm not saying our scheme played to his strengths, but Dorsey's no all-star we should tailor our defense around. He has potential, but there was some disagreement about where he should be played when he came out. All we can do is wait and see, I think he can be a performer in the new D.