OK lets see it

[Dave Lane]

Whos got some kick butt video of the greatest LB in NFL history Aaron Curry? What I've found is really pretty unimpressive. I can't see in film why he's ranked so highly. Anyone have some good video they can point me too?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by RustShack

No dumbass, for the 100th time if you draft a ILB that high he better be a HOF player, the rules are different when you draft a position actually worth a top 5 pick.

Oh, so it's okay to draft some cheese dick that's a major reach because of serious holes in his game just because he plays a position that you think is important? Because that position is a bit more flashy than another? Courtney Brown ring a bell? Gaines Adams? David Carr? Ryan Sims? Charles Rogers? And I could go on and on and on.

**** that.

You should go buy a Redskins hat if that's the way you think. There's a team that drafts shit like that every year. You'd be in nirvana.

And besides, if you don't think that MLB is important, go tell the Bears and Ravens that they'd be a much better team without a guy like Urlacher and Lewis. That they weren't worth that first round pick. That a guy like Peter Warrick or Lawrence Phillips should have been the Bears or Ravens pick, respectively.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Whos got some kick butt video of the greatest LB in NFL history Aaron Curry? What I've found is really pretty unimpressive. I can't see in film why he's ranked so highly. Anyone have some good video they can point me too?

[RustShack]

Oh MLB is very important, but Curry isn't a MLB.

[RustShack]

Also I would give you a long list of ILB busts, but teams aren't dumb enough to draft them #3 overall.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Oh, so it's okay to draft some cheese dick that's a major reach because of serious holes in his game just because he plays a position that you think is important? Because that position is a bit more flashy than another? Courtney Brown ring a bell? Gaines Adams? David Carr? Ryan Sims? Charles Rogers? And I could go on and on and on.

**** that.

You should go buy a Redskins hat if that's the way you think. There's a team that drafts shit like that every year. You'd be in nirvana.

And besides, if you don't think that MLB is important, go tell the Bears and Ravens that they'd be a much better team without a guy like Urlacher and Lewis. That they weren't worth that first round pick. That a guy like Peter Warrick or Lawrence Phillips should have been the Bears or Ravens pick, respectively.

So Gaines Adams is a bust already? God you're a ****ing dipshit. Let's just pick and choose players because they're busts.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Oh, so it's okay to draft some cheese dick that's a major reach because of serious holes in his game just because he plays a position that you think is important? Because that position is a bit more flashy than another? Courtney Brown ring a bell? Gaines Adams? David Carr? Ryan Sims? Charles Rogers? And I could go on and on and on.

**** that.

You should go buy a Redskins hat if that's the way you think. There's a team that drafts shit like that every year. You'd be in nirvana.

And besides, if you don't think that MLB is important, go tell the Bears and Ravens that they'd be a much better team without a guy like Urlacher and Lewis. That they weren't worth that first round pick. That a guy like Peter Warrick or Lawrence Phillips should have been the Bears or Ravens pick, respectively.

Urlacher taken 9th overall. Value difference between the 3rd and 9th pick: 850 points - equal to the 20th pick in the draft.

Lewis taken 26th overall. Value difference between the 3rd and 26th pick: 1500 points - equal to the 7th pick in the draft.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I can't think of a single guy that has said that we WILL take a QB, (though many of us think they should if they stay at #3) but there's a mob that have said they absolutely WON'T, just because they traded for Cassel.

Exactly.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think you're missing something here...

Is ILB a need? Absolutely.

Is ILB so desperate of a need we have to use the #3 overall pick at that position?

Absolutely ****ing not.

Christ, the other SIX spots on the front seven are a greater need than ILB right now.

Nice to see you discounting the position that is basically the quarterback of the defense, the guy who's calling the audibles, has to rush, cover, etc. I'm glad to see that you consider that position to be less valuable than, say a LDE, a LOLB, a one gap DT, etc.

However, I think that we do need help on the DL as well as the LB position, but I don't see a guy out there that is substantially better, or even equal to Curry in terms of immediate and long term contribution at any of the front seven spots. So, seeing that we need help on our front seven and Curry is the best of the bunch in this draft, what do you think we should do? I'd draft Curry. Who would you draft that would be a better alternative at the #3 spot? What position of need with what player is better than Curry as you look at the draft?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I'm not going to rain on the Sanchez love fest. I understand how disappointed they must be when Pioli and Haley decided they liked Cassel better than Sanchez. They only have about 18 days left to keep some sliver of hope alive that Pioli will have a change of heart and sign Sanchez. Enjoy dreaming up the Sanchez draft scenarios and multiple Super Bowl appearances that will follow shortly after he single handedly turns the team around. Maybe he'll read that you guys were his number one fans and that with your uber cool CP bragging rights maybe he'll join the board and invite you over his place for a few beers to make fun of the people that considered drafting Curry.

What are you going to do if we DO take Sanchez? And you do realize that if we trade down and whoever picks at #3 takes Sanchez, that validates these people's opinion as well, right?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by RustShack

What does that have to do with anything? Your pussy really hurts when people don't feel like Curry is Jesus like you right? I'm sorry, but he isn't flawless like you believe. Its over hypers like you that create busts, there is no possible way Curry lives up to the image you have him in.

Conversely, if he's able to tie his shoe correctly, he'll then surpass all of the expectations your type have of him or his position on the field.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Nice to see you discounting the position that is basically the quarterback of the defense, the guy who's calling the audibles, has to rush, cover, etc. I'm glad to see that you consider that position to be less valuable than, say a LDE, a LOLB, a one gap DT, etc.

However, I think that we do need help on the DL as well as the LB position, but I don't see a guy out there that is substantially better, or even equal to Curry in terms of immediate and long term contribution at any of the front seven spots. So, seeing that we need help on our front seven and Curry is the best of the bunch in this draft, what do you think we should do? I'd draft Curry. Who would you draft that would be a better alternative at the #3 spot? What position of need with what player is better than Curry as you look at the draft?

Do you HONESTLY think Curry is going to be the QB of the defense?

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Nice to see you discounting the position that is basically the quarterback of the defense, the guy who's calling the audibles, has to rush, cover, etc. I'm glad to see that you consider that position to be less valuable than, say a LDE, a LOLB, a one gap DT, etc.

Well there are two ILB's, and we can get away with the likes of DJ, Beisle, and/or Williams handling that a little longer. Monte would probably be the best at doing that, unless you believe you need to be a physical specimen for your teammates to hear your audible.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Nice to see you discounting the position that is basically the quarterback of the defense, the guy who's calling the audibles, has to rush, cover, etc. I'm glad to see that you consider that position to be less valuable than, say a LDE, a LOLB, a one gap DT, etc.

MLB more important than DE, OLB and DT?

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Conversely, if he's able to tie his shoe correctly, he'll then surpass all of the expectations your type have of him or his position on the field.

So anyone that can tie their shoes can be a solid and consistent player?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

So Gaines Adams is a bust already? God you're a ****ing dipshit. Let's just pick and choose players because they're busts.

He's average the same amount of sacks and 20 less tackles per year than Tamba Hali, and people around here have no problem jumping all over Hali's ass for being a bust, especially when he was picked 16 slots lower than Adams.