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Old 04-13-2009, 04:41 PM  
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:07 AM   #106
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If TG is off to Atlanta, then what about Crabtree in the first, RT and C with the 2nd and 3rd? Most of you have stated this is an offense deep draft. Build offensive line and such this year - D next year? Just a thought.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:21 AM   #107
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I'd be all over that like a cheap suit.
The only thing I hate is that we had the WORST SACK #'s IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. EVER. How do you not address defense? Are we the ****ing Lions? God I hope not.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:26 AM   #108
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The only thing I hate is that we had the WORST SACK #'s IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. EVER. How do you not address defense? Are we the ****ing Lions? God I hope not.
Actually, I do not buy that at all. I believe this would put us from the 2 -14 team we are instantly back to the same team we were in year one with DV. An offensive juggarnaut with repairs needed on D that can be addressed next season. Back on track for contention in 2010.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:30 AM   #109
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The only thing I hate is that we had the WORST SACK #'s IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. EVER. How do you not address defense? Are we the ****ing Lions? God I hope not.
So we should draft a poor value (Curry) or redundant (Monroe, Raji) player in the first and the best available defenders in the 2nd & 3rd just b/c our d sucked last year? Brilliant!

If the best available talent/need mix works out to be Crabtree, C, & RT, I'd be estatic.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:31 AM   #110
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Actually, I do not buy that at all. I believe this would put us from the 2 -14 team we are instantly back to the same team we were in year one with DV. An offensive juggarnaut with repairs needed on D that can be addressed next season. Back on track for contention in 2010.
OK, I couldn't find the stats for 2001, but :

Year Sacks
2002 34
2003 36
2004 41
2005 29

Those numbers are all a lot higher than the Chiefs whopping 10 last season. I don't see how we increase our stats to the same as DV's just by increasing our offensive power.
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So we should draft a poor value (Curry) or redundant (Monroe, Raji) player in the first and the best available defenders in the 2nd & 3rd just b/c our d sucked last year? Brilliant!

If the best available talent/need mix works out to be Crabtree, C, & RT, I'd be estatic.
I love the Crabtree pick too, but I just think we need to address our defense somehow. Do you really think that Tank can pull off the NT position?
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OK, I couldn't find the stats for 2001, but :

Year Sacks
2002 34
2003 36
2004 41
2005 29

Those numbers are all a lot higher than the Chiefs whopping 10 last season. I don't see how we increase our stats to the same as DV's just by increasing our offensive power.
Jesus ****. Last year's team was aweful. **** you, Herm. Seriously.

I hope things will be better defensively.
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:46 AM   #113
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I love the Crabtree pick too, but I just think we need to address our defense somehow. Do you really think that Tank can pull off the NT position?
We can address our defense next year, when the defensive talent will be better.

And I sincerely think the staff is going to put Dorsey at NT.
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And I sincerely think the staff is going to put Dorsey at NT.
Really? Gahhh. Wasn't he a penetrator in college?
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We can address our defense next year, when the defensive talent will be better.

And I sincerely think the staff is going to put Dorsey at NT.
That's not what Tank Tyler said:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/4...iefs-defensive

Also, Tank really fits into that size bracket needed for the NT position.

Here are all the NT's in the league, and their average/stdev of height and weight. Tank fits in both. BJ Raji is actually smaller in height (but not weight) for the NT position.

Actual NT players:

Player Weight (pounds) Height (Feet, Inches)
Total (inches)
Jay Alford 304 6 3 75
Remi Ayodele 318 6 2 74
Alan Branch 332 6 5 77
Adam Carriker 308 6 6 78
Kendrick Clancy 305 6 1 73
Barry Cofield 306 6 4 76
Lamar Divens 333 6 3 75
Fred Evans 305 6 4 76
Chris Hoke 305 6 2 74
Maake Kemoeatu 345 6 5 77
Scott Paxson 292 6 4 76
Clifton Ryan 316 6 3 75
Brian Schaefering 295 6 4 76
Isaac Sopoaga 330 6 2 74
Gabe Watson 332 6 2 74
Vince Wilfork 325 6 2 74
Willie Williams 305 6 4 76





Average Weight 315.1 Average Height 75.3
STDEV 15.2 STDEV 1.4


Prospective NT players:

Player Weight (pounds) Height (Feet, Inches)
Total (inches)
Tank Tyler 306 6 2 74
B.J. Raji 323 6 1 73
Glenn Dorsey 297 6 1 73


Tank actually fits the mold the best out of the three. Glenn is too short and small. Raji is too short. Tank is within the weight and height.
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I love the Crabtree pick too, but I just think we need to address our defense somehow. Do you really think that Tank can pull off the NT position?
From my perspective, we've invested way too much in the D-line over the last 3 years to neglect an O-line that'a sorely in need of a talent infusion in a deep draft.
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If TG is off to Atlanta, then what about Crabtree in the first, RT and C with the 2nd and 3rd? Most of you have stated this is an offense deep draft. Build offensive line and such this year - D next year? Just a thought.
If we're not taking a QB at 3 (and we probably aren't) this seems to be the most obvious choice. I tend to doubt they'd take Raji at 3, which is the only other guy that makes any sense for a pick that high.
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