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[bdeg]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

You quoted the important part of the post, yet you didn't seem to get it. Once again; in retrospect, we had no chance in hell of signing either of them once Pioli became GM, because his mind was already made up long before the combine, and BEFORE the Cassel trade*

*That's the important part.

you don't know that he didn't wait to make the trade until his scouts told him Sanchez wasn't worth the #3. who knows when(if) what was

entirely possible they just didn't like him

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by bdeg

you don't know that he didn't wait to make the trade until his scouts told him Sanchez wasn't worth the #3. who knows when(if) what was

entirely possible they just didn't like him

We would have had to take it up the ass courtesy of STL to get Sanchez at three, so yes; that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
If Pioli didn't have first crack/best shot at Cassel, Pioli does not become GM.

So write it in to the Chiefs History Book and close the chapter, because it's the truth.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

We would have had to take it up the ass courtesy of STL to get Sanchez at three, so yes; that's EXACTLY what I'm saying.
If Pioli didn't have first crack/best shot at Cassel, Pioli does not become GM.

So write it in to the Chiefs History Book and close the chapter, because it's the truth.

This is ridiculous. I'm sure the Rams would have been thrilled to take a deal with the Jets for a bunch of castoffs like the Browns did. The Browns gave away the pick. Most likely because we drafted the guy they wanted, but they gave the pick away. The Rams would have NEVER made a deal like that.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by doomy3

This is ridiculous. I'm sure the Rams would have been thrilled to take a deal with the Jets for a bunch of castoffs like the Browns did. The Browns gave away the pick. Most likely because we drafted the guy they wanted, but they gave the pick away. The Rams would have NEVER made a deal like that.

The Rams would have TOTALLY held is ass hostage. But don't take my word for it, here's the post that convinced me:

(First, I raised your exact point)

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots
Never say never, but I have a hard time believing the Rams would have had the balls to make a move. They wanted their boy, just like Detroit, and did what everyone thought they would. Quote:
Originally Posted by SBK:

They were trying to trade out of 2 on draft day. Nobody wanted to be in the top 5, the only team that was willing to take it up the ol poop shute was the Brownies to get out of there.

Think about it, if we didn't have Cassel who would we have been picking? Would the NFL believe that Pioli was going to hitch his wagon to Tyler Thigpen?

The whole world would have known we were taking Sanchez at 3, so anyone that wanted him would have been talking to the Rams. That would have to be us as well, as we would have known that we were screwed.

I wanted Sanchez bad, but seeing the play that he got, and watching the Jets trade up from 17 told me all I needed to know. Drafting @3 Pioli made the best move he could, which was trading our 2 for Cassel.

Looks pretty ****ing cut and dried to me.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

The Rams would have TOTALLY held is ass hostage. But don't take my word for it, here's the post that convinced me:

(First, I raised your exact point)


Looks pretty ****ing cut and dried to me.

Oh, that seals the deal. Because some poster on ChiefsPlanet said that the Rams would have held us hostage, then that convinces me too.

You're right, I didn't realize how ****ing cut and dried it was.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Oh, that seals the deal. Because some poster on ChiefsPlanet said that the Rams would have held us hostage, then that convinces me too.

You're right, I didn't realize how ****ing cut and dried it was.

Oooh! This just in from THISmage across the hall:

He was talking about while we were on the clock during the #3 pick.

We reportedly talked to the Lions days before the draft and they wanted no part of the #3 pick.

Like it or not, the leverage was at #2, not #3. We had no shot at trading down - our only hope was to call everybody's bluff and take Sanchez. They decided to stick to their board instead and I'm fine with that.

Cut and dried. Deal with it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by doomy3

This is ridiculous. I'm sure the Rams would have been thrilled to take a deal with the Jets for a bunch of castoffs like the Browns did. The Browns gave away the pick. Most likely because we drafted the guy they wanted, but they gave the pick away. The Rams would have NEVER made a deal like that.

The Rams were FULLY prepared to actually take him.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by THISmaqe

The Rams were FULLY prepared to actually take him.

convince me this wasn't just posturing

why didn't they take him, then?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by bdeg

convince me this wasn't just posturing

why didn't they take him, then?

It doesn't matter if it was just posturing or not.

I heard a half dozen talking heads in the 48 hours after the 1st round of the draft say that the NFL people they talked to believed that the Rams might be prepared to take Sanchez but didn't buy it from the Chiefs or Seahawks at all.

It really doesn't matter what the team's actual intention was, it only matters how teams wanting to trade up perceived it. In the end, WE probably killed the Rams' chances of trading down because everybody was convinced we wouldn't take Sanchez.

[bdeg]

Originally Posted by THISmaqe

It doesn't matter if it was just posturing or not.

I heard a half dozen talking heads in the 48 hours after the 1st round of the draft say that the NFL people they talked to believed that the Rams might be prepared to take Sanchez but didn't buy it from the Chiefs or Seahawks at all.

It really doesn't matter what the team's actual intention was, it only matters how teams wanting to trade up perceived it. In the end, WE probably killed the Rams' chances of trading down because everybody was convinced we wouldn't take Sanchez.

well what you said was 'they were FULLY prepared to actually take him'
still don't understand what that means when they had the chance but chose not to
I agree with the last par though, just not the statement I was disputing.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by THISmaqe

The Rams were FULLY prepared to actually take him.

Then why didn't they?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Then why didn't they?

I don't know why they didn't, nor does it matter.