Son of a ****ing bitch

[Bob Dole]

Not 24 ****ing hours after finishing the benefit concert/auction/poker run/bike show for a fallen friend who was murdered by a careless driver while on his motorcycle, Bob Dole gets the phone call that he just lost another one to some careless bitch who ran a stop sign and slaughtered Bob Dole's friend, Heath.

RIP brother.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by THISBobDole

Which brings to light the wonderful media bias.

The newspaper article makes specific mention of his lack of helmet, but fails to mention that a helmet wouldn't have prevented the broken neck that lead to his death.

Understood, Scott. Please tell me, though....you ARE aware of the very clear and unmistakeable "advantage" of riding with a helmet, as opposed to not riding with one. The stats, in this case, don't lie....

Although, I agree...in the egregious cases you've "witnessed" the last few weeks...it wouldn't have mattered.....

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Understood, Scott. Please tell me, though....you ARE aware of the very clear and unmistakeable "advantage" of riding with a helmet, as opposed to not riding with one. The stats, in this case, don't lie....

Although, I agree...in the egregious cases you've "witnessed" the last few weeks...it wouldn't have mattered.....

I ride without a helmet.

I would rather check out than burden my wife with a drooling mess that she is forced to take care of for the rest of my "life".

She knows this and understands it.

In fact, she will start riding this summer and the same goes for her.

[Bugeater]

On the flip side, some motorcyclists are dumbasses. Just tonight as I was driving home, one was entering the freeway, and I was going to get off at the next exit. I saw him back there and turned on my signal to get in the right lane while he was well behind me, luckily I waited to see what he was going to do before I got over, because instead of allowing me to get over and jumping into the traffic lanes behind me, the idiot decided to blow by me on the right and then jump lanes. That's the kind of stupidity that also gets people killed.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

I ride without a helmet.

I would rather check out than burden my wife with a drooling mess that she is forced to take care of for the rest of my "life".

She knows this and understands it.

In fact, she will start riding this summer and the same goes for her.

I know the ABATE arguments....very well. I understand, we are all endowed with free will.

I will not begrudge you for your choice, brother pr_capone; but, please, don't begrudge me for mine....

FWIW, I salute/greet all bikers...not just the helmeted ones I meet on the road.

Originally Posted by Bugeater

On the flip side, some motorcyclists are dumbasses. Just tonight as I was driving home, one was entering the freeway, and I was going to get off at the next exit. I saw him back there and turned on my signal to get in the right lane while he was well behind me, luckily I waited to see what he was going to do before I got over, because instead of allowing me to get over and jumping into the traffic lanes behind me, the idiot decided to blow by me on the right and then jump lanes. That's the kind of stupidity that also gets people killed.

And, unfortunately, it's the kind of stupidity that gives all bikers....a bad "name" with many people.

OTOH, I'd be willing to bet the average age of such bikers is 25 years or less; the "seasoned" riders and vets....we'll happily give you access to your lane, as we swap lanes with you.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

actually for people who work out of their car it can't wait but whatever meh

Oh no you didn't.
Posted via Mobile Device

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Not trying to start anything, but from my personal observations....texting seems to be more popular with the penis-less of the general population.

I'm just sayin'.....

I think it's more popular with the younger generations of people, regardless of males or females, IMHO.

[Radar Chief]

Sorry to read that Mr. THISBobDole.

Originally Posted by Donger

Horrible. I now wear a helmet when I ride after years of not. I hate it, but I hate it less than not seeing my kids grow up.

I didn’t know you ride.
I wear a full helmet religiously since an accident in ’96 and it has saved me since then.
I had a little get off in ’00 where I slid, tumbled and a golf ball sized rock split my helmet when I bounced off the top of it. Had I not been wearing my helmet I’d probably post even more gibberish than I currently do.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by pr_capone

I ride without a helmet.

I would rather check out than burden my wife with a drooling mess that she is forced to take care of for the rest of my "life".

She knows this and understands it.

In fact, she will start riding this summer and the same goes for her.

I was watching the qualifying for the 500 GP bikes at Hockenheimring in Germany, a track famous for it’s long straights where bikes even back in 1990 were running past 200 MPH, when Eddie Lawson pulled into the pits to change tires. Exiting the pits leads to one of the longest straights and Eddie quickly got his Yamaha up to speed, but when he sat up and grabbed the brakes for the first turn it revealed that someone had made a mistake replacing the front wheel and the brake pads literally fell out of the calipers. He headed off track in excess in excess of 190 MPH without brakes. I thought for sure he was dead, he slid forever after laying the bike down, but he raced the next day having suffered only minor bruises and scrapes.
The proper safety gear will save your life.

[Lzen]

I, too, am a believer in helmets. All those years of riding bicycles made me realize how important protecting your head really is. Now that I'm on a motorcycle in traffic, it is a definite must.

Not sure how one comes to the conclusion that having a helmet would make you a vegetable. I would think a helmet would keep you from being a veg. Or did I misinterpret pr_capone's post?

[Fairplay]

Very sorry for the loss of you fellow bikers.

Defensive driving mode is on 100 percent when you drive with idiots on the road.

My best to you.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I, too, am a believer in helmets. All those years of riding bicycles made me realize how important protecting your head really is. Now that I'm on a motorcycle in traffic, it is a definite must.

Not sure how one comes to the conclusion that having a helmet would make you a vegetable. I would think a helmet would keep you from being a veg. Or did I misinterpret pr_capone's post?

I think you read it right, that’s kind of an old justification for not wearing a helmet that I’ve been hearing since I was a kid hanging out with my parents and their “biker” friends back in the ‘70’s.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by THISBobDole

Which brings to light the wonderful media bias.

The newspaper article makes specific mention of his lack of helmet, but fails to mention that a helmet wouldn't have prevented the broken neck that lead to his death.

I don't know what article you are referring to, but how do you know he would have still suffered a broken neck if was wearing a helmet?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I didn’t know you ride.
I wear a full helmet religiously since an accident in ’96 and it has saved me since then.
I had a little get off in ’00 where I slid, tumbled and a golf ball sized rock split my helmet when I bounced off the top of it. Had I not been wearing my helmet I’d probably post even more gibberish than I currently do.

I'm an avid cyclist, as in road bicycle.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I, too, am a believer in helmets. All those years of riding bicycles made me realize how important protecting your head really is. Now that I'm on a motorcycle in traffic, it is a definite must.

Not sure how one comes to the conclusion that having a helmet would make you a vegetable. I would think a helmet would keep you from being a veg. Or did I misinterpret pr_capone's post?

I assume he's talking about the subset of accidents where a helmet makes the difference between instant death (without a helmet) and severe brain damage (with a helmet). In that case, I'd personally prefer instant death. But of course that leaves out all the other accidents where the helmet makes the difference between death/severe damage (without a helmet) and minor injury or none at all (with a helmet).

[Brock]

Honestly, I've never personally seen an accident where a helmet would have saved the guy's life. But I also don't want to be the guy whose family is being told "If he was wearing a helmet, you'd be talking to him now". So I always wear a helmet.