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Old 06-24-2009, 12:13 PM   #1
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Wow, the reaction in this thread is WAY below what it should be.

This is a phenomenal signing for us.

WTF guys.
Phenomenal? How so?

He's 31. He hasn't played a 16 game season since 2003.

2008: 15 games
2007: 1 games
2006: 6 games
2005: 12 games
2004: 2 games

The guy might not even make it out of training camp.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:24 PM   #2
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Phenomenal? How so?

He's 31. He hasn't played a 16 game season since 2003.

2008: 15 games
2007: 1 games
2006: 6 games
2005: 12 games
2004: 2 games

The guy might not even make it out of training camp.
This is what I was thinking. How can this be the best off season signing with that record?
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:31 PM   #3
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This is what I was thinking. How can this be the best off season signing with that record?
Watch the video. He's a play maker how many of those do the Chiefs have on defense?
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:31 PM   #4
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This is what I was thinking. How can this be the best off season signing with that record?
Yeah, I don't agree with that wording.

Best signing? No. Good signing? I think so. High risk, high potential reward. If Brown is healthy, we have ourselves a star. If he isn't, we scrap him. And all the while, he helps us on special teams.

And by the way, I still can't stand the hate for Jon McGraw. Scott Pioli and Todd Haley, not Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards, decided that he was good enough to stay on the roster. It no longer has anything to do with favoritism. He's a decent backup and a great special teams player. I have no problem keeping a roster spot for a guy like that.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:51 PM   #5
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Yeah, I don't agree with that wording.

Best signing? No. Good signing? I think so. High risk, high potential reward. If Brown is healthy, we have ourselves a star. If he isn't, we scrap him. And all the while, he helps us on special teams.

And by the way, I still can't stand the hate for Jon McGraw. Scott Pioli and Todd Haley, not Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards, decided that he was good enough to stay on the roster. It no longer has anything to do with favoritism. He's a decent backup and a great special teams player. I have no problem keeping a roster spot for a guy like that.
I don't know about star? Mind you, thats my opinion. I think he is definately a solid starter when healthy heads and shoulders far better then what we have starting at safety now.

I really hope he starts stays healthy and beats out either Page or Pollard I hope we didn't sign Mike Brown to play special teams. The other guys like Page, Pollard, or McGraw can do that job. Im only saying this because i feel safety position needs to be upgraded..If he can start, give us a solid safety for this year and next year we go into the draft and draft a safety then thatd be more to enough to ask for.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:57 PM   #6
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I don't know about star? Mind you, thats my opinion. I think he is definately a solid starter when healthy heads and shoulders far better then what we have starting at safety now.

I really hope he starts stays healthy and beats out either Page or Pollard I hope we didn't sign Mike Brown to play special teams. The other guys like Page, Pollard, or McGraw can do that job. Im only saying this because i feel safety position needs to be upgraded..If he can start, give us a solid safety for this year and next year we go into the draft and draft a safety then thatd be more to enough to ask for.
You're expecting way too much.

The guy hasn't been healthy since 2003. He's been injured every single year since and he's 31 years old. He was a free agent at this point for a reason.

I hope he can make some sort of contribution but your expectations are way over the top.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:07 PM   #7
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You're expecting way too much.

The guy hasn't been healthy since 2003. He's been injured every single year since and he's 31 years old. He was a free agent at this point for a reason.

I hope he can make some sort of contribution but your expectations are way over the top.
You don't know what you're talking about. He played 15 games last season. He'll make more of a contribution then Bernard Pollard will. Pollard has proven he's not a good safety. Mike Brown is a play maker.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:12 PM   #8
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You don't know what you're talking about. He played 15 games last season. He'll make more of a contribution then Bernard Pollard will. Pollard has proven he's not a good safety. Mike Brown is a play maker.
I think Pollard can be a good safety in a more aggresive type of scheme, Page Im not so sure.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:15 PM   #9
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You don't know what you're talking about. He played 15 games last season. He'll make more of a contribution then Bernard Pollard will. Pollard has proven he's not a good safety. Mike Brown is a play maker.
Oh, I don't, huh? If was so good for the Bears last year, why was he released? Why wasn't he signed by any team in the NFL earlier than June 24th?

And apparently, you missed this nugget:

Since 2003, he's played in exactly 36 out of a possible 80 games due to various injuries.

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Old 06-24-2009, 02:24 PM   #10
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You don't know what you're talking about. He played 15 games last season. He'll make more of a contribution then Bernard Pollard will. Pollard has proven he's not a good safety. Mike Brown is a play maker.
Skeeeert! Stop right there. If Mike Brown didn't have such obvious injury concerns, he would've been picked up already. Just because he ALMOST completed a whole season last year does not make him durable, and god knows what his injuries have done to his speed, and he was never fast in the first place. He will NOT replace Pollard. If anything, he may replace page on obvious running situations. He's just another role player until he can prove otherwise.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:11 PM   #11
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You're expecting way too much.

The guy hasn't been healthy since 2003. He's been injured every single year since and he's 31 years old. He was a free agent at this point for a reason.

I hope he can make some sort of contribution but your expectations are way over the top.
Hey I always hope for the best...thats just me

i didn't really see any other way we could've improved the safety position this year? There really wasn't much out there? And Brown is a pretty good option if healthy. it's a risk, but a risk that could be worth taking.

Yeah I know he has durability issues, but all you can really do as a fan is either be supportive upon this move, or look at the darkside down and not press upon your hopes...Id rather choose to focus on the sunny side up regardless whether this situation works out or not.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:17 PM   #12
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Hey I always hope for the best...thats just me

i didn't really see any other way we could've improved the safety position this year? There really wasn't much out there? And Brown is a pretty good option if healthy. it's a risk, but a risk that could be worth taking.

Yeah I know he has durability issues, but all you can really do as a fan is either be supportive upon this move, or look at the darkside down and not press upon your hopes...Id rather choose to focus on the sunny side up regardless whether this situation works out or not.
As I said earlier, if he contributes, GREAT!

But expecting him to beat out the incumbent starter and have a Pro-Bowl like season after missing 44 games over the past 5 seasons (not including the playoffs) is tenuous at best.

Especially at age 31.
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