**** You Scott Pioli

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You take the CB because you're looking at the trends of the NFL. That's something that even some of the smarter and better posters here (I consider you one of them) might be overlooking. 3 quality cornerbacks is turning into an NFL must.

You take Brown because he's the best you see at that time (or you think he has the most potential), and he's a project just as every other o-lineman taken at that point in the draft is likely to be. You hope to find lightning in a bottle, but you realize that it's not likely to happen.

It's interesting to me that people are complaining about a draft where the first round pick looks great, the 2nd round pick brought in the team's QB, the 3rd round pick looks as if he might well pan out and become a starter sooner rather than later (possibly taking last year's "cant' miss" prospect and putting him on the bench in the process), the 4th round pick looks as if he's got all the potential in the world and the last pick looks as if he could become a pro-bowl type of player in the future. I don't know if that's because people overlook the crap shoot aspect of the draft, because the draft geeking gives them unreasonable expectations or because they've been so scarred by the previous regime.

I get that.

But we have a trio of solid young corners.

The fact is, Niswanger is still a project, and Luigs is a more advanced project already (as is Eric Wood, who was taken in the fifth round, I believe).

If we're starting a project, I'd rather draft and start the one that has more upside.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by milkman

I get that.

But we have a trio of solid young corners.

The fact is, Niswanger is still a project, and Luigs is a more advanced project already (as is Eric Wood, who was taken in the fifth round, I believe).

If we're starting a project, I'd rather draft and start the one that has more upside.

I understand your preference. I just think it ignores the G.M. you're looking at, and his draft history. New England builds around the D-line, and the K.C. D-line sucked. It needed a complete overhaul. I'm actually a bit surprised that Dorsey is still in K.C., and I can only guess that it's because of his contract and the inability to get fair value in a trade return.

It would not shock me to see this team shell out big money, either in free agency or with the first round pick, for a nose tackle in the upcoming offseason. It's just how Pioli has done it in the past.

Also, I fully expect Pioli to pounce on any O-lineman he thinks is worth a damn once final cuts are made throughout the league.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I understand your preference. I just think it ignores the G.M. you're looking at, and his draft history. New England builds around the D-line, and the K.C. D-line sucked. It needed a complete overhaul. I'm actually a bit surprised that Dorsey is still in K.C., and I can only guess that it's because of his contract and the inability to get fair value in a trade return.

It would not shock me to see this team shell out big money, either in free agency or with the first round pick, for a nose tackle in the upcoming offseason. It's just how Pioli has done it in the past.

Also, I fully expect Pioli to pounce on any O-lineman he thinks is worth a damn once final cuts are made throughout the league.

No, it doesn't ignore his history of building around the D-Line, since we are debating the merits of taking a center as opposed to a CB in the fourth, and taking a more natural RT than Colin Brown in the fifth.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by milkman

No, it doesn't ignore his history of building around the D-Line, since we are debating the merits of taking a center as opposed to a CB in the fourth, and taking a more natural RT than Colin Brown in the fifth.

I meant the general approach, rather than the specifics. I should have been more clear, so my apologies for that.

The reality is that, whether people like it or not, teams will draft according to their board and reasoning, and not according to the whims of people on a message board: and for damned good reason. Washington, for example, is a pick that Mecca was fine with and you're criticizing. Unless a GM hits at 100% all the time, there will always be some messageboard geek who can pull out a "See, I wanted!" thread and feel as is he was superior. It's just the nature of the beast.

The key isn't for a team to be right all the time. It's for a team to be right enough of the time. Thus far, this draft looks very good for the Chiefs, and I think people should be looking at that rather than complaining because their particular preferences weren't followed to the letter.

Just as a F'rinstance, I wanted Clady last season, and Oher and Sean Smith this season. I'd still be thrilled with those picks, but I can't exactly complain with Mayo, Chung, Butler, Vollmer and Brace. It's really just a matter of how much faith/trust you have in your front office.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I meant the general approach, rather than the specifics. I should have been more clear, so my apologies for that.

The reality is that, whether people like it or not, teams will draft according to their board and reasoning, and not according to the whims of people on a message board: and for damned good reason. Washington, for example, is a pick that Mecca was fine with and you're criticizing. Unless a GM hits at 100% all the time, there will always be some messageboard geek who can pull out a "See, I wanted!" thread and feel as is he was superior. It's just the nature of the beast.

The key isn't for a team to be right all the time. It's for a team to be right enough of the time. Thus far, this draft looks very good for the Chiefs, and I think people should be looking at that rather than complaining because their particular preferences weren't followed to the letter.

Just as a F'rinstance, I wanted Clady last season, and Oher and Sean Smith this season. I'd still be thrilled with those picks, but I can't exactly complain with Mayo, Chung, Butler, Vollmer and Brace. It's really just a matter of how much faith/trust you have in your front office.

That's what these message forums are for, spouting our dumbass opinions.

And I'm full of dumbass opinions.