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Old 09-13-2009, 02:30 PM  
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:41 PM   #196
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They are carrying 4 QBs on the 53, I imagine they are doing that so they can get something in return for one of them.
TT was showcased for one play yesterday, just wish he would have broken it. Just my opinion, but I think that is their strategy, they don't plan on trading Guiterez.
Another way of looking at it, you have 4 QBs, which one is the most different than the other three?
The take I have is that putting Thigpen in yesterday might show that Haley is interested in running some wildcat reps with Thigpen in at QB. At least with Thigpen, there are some interesting things you can do, so he's not completely wasting space on your bench. Notice how Thigpen took both snaps under center. I don't think it's too farfetched to think Haley would rather have a project at #3 than a career third stringer--for as much hype as Gutterrez has gotten, he sure throws a lot of checkdown passes to the RB.

The fact that Gutterrez wasn't on the roster doesn't bode well for him. Trust me, nobody's gunning to trade for Thigpen at this point. In a game where a fragile backup is your starter, your #3 QB has to be the guy you want on your roster long-term. The fact that it was Thigpen and not Gutterrez speaks wonders.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:50 PM   #197
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I thought about this very scenario last night. I believe Brodie believes he can still be a starter in this league, and I believe the Chiefs let him showcase yesterday as an undisclosed factor to the final decision on Cassel starting against Baltimore.
I think they want to at least try and get something for Croyle that benefits both parties involved. I can tell you this much; if Brodie should start week 2 and the Chiefs win, he will absolutely be on the Trade Train out at the end of the year.

If Brodie leaves KC, they'll bring in another couple of candidates for camp and let Guitierrez, Thigpen, and the other two battle it out for second and third.
Or, if they're dedicated to developing Guitierrez as the #2, they'll just release Thigpen outright at the end of this season.


And what a tragedy that would be.
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The take I have is that putting Thigpen in yesterday might show that Haley is interested in running some wildcat reps with Thigpen in at QB. At least with Thigpen, there are some interesting things you can do, so he's not completely wasting space on your bench. Notice how Thigpen took both snaps under center. I don't think it's too farfetched to think Haley would rather have a project at #3 than a career third stringer--for as much hype as Gutterrez has gotten, he sure throws a lot of checkdown passes to the RB.

The fact that Gutterrez wasn't on the roster doesn't bode well for him. Trust me, nobody's gunning to trade for Thigpen at this point. In a game where a fragile backup is your starter, your #3 QB has to be the guy you want on your roster long-term. The fact that it was Thigpen and not Gutterrez speaks wonders.
It is fun to speculate, and interesting how we are looking at the same situation, and coming up with three different scenerios. I guess we will see, as I don't think it is very common to carry 4 QBs on the 53, it is?
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:52 PM   #198
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It is fun to speculate, and interesting how we are looking at the same situation, and coming up with three different scenerios. I guess we will see, as I don't think it is very common to carry 4 QBs on the 53, it is?
I would be shocked if one of the QBs wasn't cut when Cassel gets a clean bill of health.
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Old 09-14-2009, 03:53 PM   #199
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It is fun to speculate, and interesting how we are looking at the same situation, and coming up with three different scenerios. I guess we will see, as I don't think it is very common to carry 4 QBs on the 53, it is?
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:01 PM   #200
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And we're absolutely heart broken over that.
We can only hope it's broken beyond repair.

How old are you? You act as if you are pre-teen girl starting her period.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:04 PM   #201
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We can only hope it's broken beyond repair.

How old are you? You act as if you are pre-teen girl starting her period.
I'm old enough to tell you to **** off.


So **** off.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:21 PM   #202
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I'm missing the point of this thread, I thought we lost yesterday.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:46 PM   #203
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So **** off.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:49 PM   #204
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He survived Baltimore, and who says Cassel would've done any better than Croyle in that game.
It's one game. He survived one game in 2007, too. And then he got broken again.

It really doesn't matter what Cassel would have done. Brodie Croyle is a known quantity at this point - he is what he is.
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Old 09-14-2009, 04:49 PM   #205
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I'm missing the point of this thread, I thought we lost yesterday.
The Chiefs did lose yesterday, but it was not the disaster that was predicted.

As an all around POV the team looked better than they did last year.
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It's one game. He survived one game in 2007, too. And then he got broken again.
He got knocked bigtime against the Ravens, it wasn't a run of a mill hit plethora either.
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Old 09-14-2009, 05:24 PM   #208
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He got knocked bigtime against the Ravens, it wasn't a run of a mill hit plethora either.
And it's still only one game.

Sorry, I'm not going to deny you your opinion. I'm just done with this type of stuff myself. There's no reason to be vested in individual players anymore - they either suck or they get shipped off or both.

Hell with it, I'm ready for Cassel to play and Brodie to return to the bench.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:22 AM   #209
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The Chiefs did lose yesterday, but it was not the disaster that was predicted.

As an all around POV the team looked better than they did last year.
I guess I watched a different game. I saw an offense that really struggled to get first downs and a defense that couldn't stop the other team. That seems like a disaster to me.

I don't understand all the "we did better then we thought" talk this week. You guys must have had the bar set really really low.

I didn't expect the Chiefs to win but I wanted to see improvement. I didn't notice much if any improvement.
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