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Old 09-20-2009, 04:03 PM  
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:14 PM   #211
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The whole team sucks even Mike Brown was bad.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:16 PM   #212
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Is there 1 veteran Pioli signed that has played good either game? Vrabel meh, Brown played 1 good game, Wade played good, the rest have sucked.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:17 PM   #213
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I wish we could have gotten an elite pass rushing LB with the 3rd overall pick or traded down instead of getting a DE to tie up blockers.
Jesus Curry was the only viable LB to take at #3. He has 8 tackles and no sacks on the year. Seems like this draft was a dud for defensive playmakers at the top of the draft. I would bet Pioli tried like a MFer to trade out of #3 to pick up Jackson later in the draft but couldn't find anyone willing to move up to pay 60mil for marginal talent...thus he took his player early. It was a sh*tty hand he was dealt IMO.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:19 PM   #214
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Is there 1 veteran Pioli signed that has played good either game? Vrabel meh, Brown played 1 good game, Wade played good, the rest have sucked.
Vrabel has played smart, but that is about the best you can say about any of the offseason acquisitions in free agency.

So far, Bobby Wade is the only player signed that played at a level that we can hope that we look back at as a good signing.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:31 PM   #215
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Is there 1 veteran Pioli signed that has played good either game? Vrabel meh, Brown played 1 good game, Wade played good, the rest have sucked.
I think it's important to keep in mind, these veteran guys Pioli signed are here for 2 reasons:

1. the chiefs were a young team w/ no veterans. There was too much of an imbalance going on. The team had a roster full of kids, and that need to change.

2. I believe it was to patch up Carl and Herms mess. Really. I mean the roster was so devoid of talent and still is. it could make a bit of a slight difference having some of these veterans on the team rather then having some of the scrubs that were here before? The bleeding was so bad, they had to at least try and slow it down.

I still think though the draft is the best route for this team to add talent. Its gonna realistically take this team maybe 3 or 4 years to be a good team provided they draft well. Hopefully, Pioli hired some good scouts. Were gonna need them to do their homework.
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Old 09-20-2009, 07:50 PM   #216
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That's one play.

I honestly can't believe after reading Hootie's posts about how DMAC is the next AP, and how this Raider team was great at run blocking that people want to continue to rag on the run D.

I don't give a shit what Cable did. I don't care what could have happened.
The Chiefs run defense did their job today. Dorsey played a very nice game and Jackson contributed as well.

Do I think he's worth the 3rd overall pick? No way. But am I going to complain every week about his production? No. If you know anything about the 3-4, the DE's are about as unsexy as a position there is in the stat book.
I for one, said nothing of Jackson in this thread. I've actually defended him through the first two games, even though I believe it was a god awful use of resources given the position he plays. He's the least of our problems.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:08 PM   #217
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:27 PM   #218
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Hali, Corey Mays and DJ, minus the sack.

Where were these guys?

Oh, that's right.

Getting their asses pwned.
Between:

Hali
Vrabel
Johnson
Williams
Beisel
Mays

The LB's stat line ready 7 tackles, 1 sack.

Pathetic.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:30 PM   #219
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I missed it during the game, but who had the sack on the play that Gilberry got called for the PF Penalty?
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:31 PM   #220
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I missed it during the game, but who had the sack on the play that Gilberry got called for the PF Penalty?
The Raiders' RG.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:33 PM   #221
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The Raiders' RG.
Really?

I wondered because on the radio, they didn't announce it at all. Just said Russell was sacked, then explained that Gilberry hit him late, etc.
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:34 PM   #222
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Really?

I wondered because on the radio, they didn't announce it at all. Just said Russell was sacked, then explained that Gilberry hit him late, etc.
ESPN's boxscore has Gilberry with that sack.
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Vrabel was playing patti cake all day.

There's also no reason that DeMorrio Williams should continute to start over Derrick Johnson.
This I do not understand.
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ESPN's boxscore has Gilberry with that sack.
Yeah, I just looked it up after I asked the question. Thanks for the answer.

Weird that he could get a late hit penalty on a sack he got credit for...
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This I do not understand.
I think it's been going on b/c either Johnson doesn't know his assignments, or tried to freelance too much.

Either way, if he is in the wrong spot, we get gashed. Haley's thinking must be that even though Williams isn't as gifted a player, if he does his job, he'll be better for the team.
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