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Old 09-28-2009, 06:45 PM  
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It's All LJ's Fault!!!
No joke. I just finished watching the game again. I swear LJ has the entire offense moving in 1st gear. Sure, there are many times the OL doesn't hold a block more than 2 seconds, but FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD! LJ puts his head down and looks for a spot to lay down. Many times a quicker back could bounce it outside. Other times there's a quick opening and LJ stands there and waits for it to close before starting his run. On the few plays Charles was in, immediately he gained 15 yards. Albert was guilty of holding AFTER he was already thru the hole! That's because Albert's timing is off due to LJ's slow ass!

I petitioned for LJ to sit last week and now I'm confident that he truly is our biggest liability. Just like Thigpen was able to run around the line last year, we need a RB that can do the same.

Weak OL + slow RB with no vision = disaster.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:32 PM   #16
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He stops moving the second contact is made.
This is absolutely not true.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:36 PM   #17
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Just watch it - especially in the 1st half when we're trying to get something going. A quicker, more -decisive back would have had 3 times as many yards as LJ. I don't expect GoChiefs to agree with any of this. Hell, he was typing his response before he even read the post.

All it takes to see a difference is when Savage or Charles are in. Granted, our OL sucks. All the more reason to go a different direction/change of pace.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:37 PM   #18
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Just watch it - especially in the 1st half when we're trying to get something going. A quicker, more -decisive back would have had 3 times as many yards as LJ.
So, nine yards instead of three.

Woo.

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You really don't get it. When Charles gets the majority of his handoffs, they come in passing situations. He has a ton of space to work with. There is no comparison. None.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:48 PM   #19
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So, nine yards instead of three.

Woo.

You really don't get it. When Charles gets the majority of his handoffs, they come in passing situations. He has a ton of space to work with. There is no comparison. None.
Bullshit. The 15 yarder was a run around the end. And just because that's the current setup doesn't mean it'll stay that way. Not with this coach.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:49 PM   #20
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This is absolutely not true.
I wish I had not deleted the game off my DVR now.

I have seen LJ hit the line and immediately curl into a ball more times these past 3 weeks than I can recall watching ANY rb over the course of an entire season.

Unless he has a hole 4 feet wide, 95% of the time he makes ZERO effort to move the ball up field and instead tips over on to his back.

His feet stop moving.

*cue the insults
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:49 PM   #21
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You're reeruned.

When LJ actually gets a decent hole he is through it for a positive gain. There's nothing he can do with two guys in his face right after he gets the handoff.

I looked at the game a little last night and for the most part he made the most of what he had. There were a couple plays where he missed a hole, but only a couple. And he had a very nice cutback ran for a 14-yard gain where he made a guy miss.

Charles usually has a lot more space to work with due to the fact he is getting the ball in passing situations on draws. He did have one little run where he made a couple guys miss in the backfield. His called back TD run was also impressive.

But you are painting a picture that LJ is some huge problem and Charles is the answer, and it is not true.

Fer crissakes, I saw LJ take a pitch yesterday, had a nice lane opening up on the right side and was headed through it. But Niswanger blew a block on a linebacker so horribly at the line that the LB just sped through it and ran into LJ right after he got the pitch.

He has no chance when crap like that happens. And it has happened twice in three games now. Niswanger couldn't block Ray Lewis on a similar play.

I'm not going to say LJ is perfect but when he gets a hole he is fine. There are a lot of good running backs around the league struggling right now. LJ is no different.
Give it up. He is done.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:02 PM   #22
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Give it up. He is done.
I know what I see, Skip.

This running back is not done.

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Old 09-28-2009, 08:04 PM   #23
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Anyone saying LJ is done is an idiot. The guy is getting hit in the backfield on about half the plays he gets the ball. His quickness to the hole is fine and he still breaks plenty of tackles. The problem is the line simply is not even allow LJ to get to the first level to find a seam, much less the second level. When a back is getting tackled for a 6 yard loss and he's not Barry sanders that's the lines fault.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:04 PM   #24
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Dumbest fans in the NFL.
Hands down.

And this guy, MahiMike, was telling us all how the Chiefs were going to beat the Eagles all last week.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:08 PM   #25
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Anyone saying LJ is done is an idiot. The guy is getting hit in the backfield on about half the plays he gets the ball. His quickness to the hole is fine and he still breaks plenty of tackles. The problem is the line simply is not even allow LJ to get to the first level to find a seam, much less the second level. When a back is getting tackled for a 6 yard loss and he's not Barry sanders that's the lines fault.
Fun fact: LJ has been thrown for a six-yard loss EVERY WEEK.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:12 PM   #26
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It is LJs FAULT!!!11!

When I watched the game that sack of shit never blocked once on any of the ****ing running plays! What a ****ing cancer! Go half-ass it in Zona, bitch. /idontknowwhatsgoingonanymore
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Old 09-28-2009, 09:19 PM   #27
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I've criticized LJ as harshly as anyone, but how you 1. revisit that game period and then 2. come away with the thread title is pretty ****ing amazing.
No shit.

Dear thread starter,

Kill yourself.

Sorry if repost.
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Hands down.

And this guy, MahiMike, was telling us all how the Chiefs were going to beat the Eagles all last week.
You didn't think I bet any $ on the game did you? With a real RB in the backfield and Bowe playing, that game is much closer. I was hoping Haley would see tjhe light and bench LJ.
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With a real RB in the backfield and Bowe playing, that game is much closer.
You are freaking nuts.
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You didn't think I bet any $ on the game did you? With a real RB in the backfield and Bowe playing, that game is much closer. I was hoping Haley would see tjhe light and bench LJ.
No, it's not.

This isn't 1992.

It's 2009.

If the Chiefs win a single game this year, I'll be pleased as punch.

But it won't be against an NFC East juggernaut.
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