This Sanchez Chap

[Coach]

The bigger question we all should ask ourselves here is, would Sanchez succeed behind this awful offensive line the Chiefs employ?

I would probably incline to say "no".

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Coach

The bigger question we all should ask ourselves here is, would Sanchez succeed behind this awful offensive line the Chiefs employ?

I would probably incline to say "no".

He's younger and presumably more resistant to injury, right? Maybe faster?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Donger

He's younger and presumably more resistant to injury, right? Maybe faster?

Sorry I didn't get back to that in a hurry. Even with that, I still don't think, given the current situation of our offensive line, he'd be as successful as he is in NY.

NY has a better defense than the Chiefs do, and they also have a solid running game, which the Chiefs also lack as well.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Coach

Sorry I didn't get back to that in a hurry. Even with that, I still don't think, given the current situation of our offensive line, he'd be as successful as he is in NY.

NY has a better defense than the Chiefs do, and they also have a solid running game, which the Chiefs also lack as well.

That "solid" running game hasn't been nearly as solid as people think.

They struggled through the first three quarters of the first two games, constantly putting themselves in third and long situations.

Against the Titans, they only rushed for 83 yards.

Make no mistake, Sanchez is making plays.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

That "solid" running game hasn't been nearly as solid as people think.

They struggled through the first three quarters of the first two games, constantly putting themselves in third and long situations.

Against the Titans, they only rushed for 83 yards.

Make no mistake, Sanchez is making plays.

I think the better point to be made is that the Jets are running the ball... a lot. 104 times--I think that was the second most in the NFL of any team.
I've always believed a strong running game puts you in a better position to win games. It wears out the opposing defense, and keeps your defense fresh in the 4th quarter.

In the Titans game, Sanchez had an outstanding first drive. After that, he scored two TDs on fumbles in Jets' field goal range and mostly did nothing. It makes the job much easier for a QB when the team is in a run-first, play good defense mode.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by milkman

That "solid" running game hasn't been nearly as solid as people think.

They struggled through the first three quarters of the first two games, constantly putting themselves in third and long situations.

Against the Titans, they only rushed for 83 yards.

Make no mistake, Sanchez is making plays.

I'm not mistaking, he is making plays, no question. But NY's running game is still better than Kansas City's running game, although not much statistically-wise. 3.8 YPC to KC's 3.6.

But NY runs it more than KC (104 to 84) and they have 3 rushing TD's compared to KC's 0. It also helps their philosophy by having a solid defense as well.

[chefsos]

Just ran across this and felt compelled to post it. I snickered, you might too.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think the better point to be made is that the Jets are running the ball... a lot. 104 times--I think that was the second most in the NFL of any team.
I've always believed a strong running game puts you in a better position to win games. It wears out the opposing defense, and keeps your defense fresh in the 4th quarter.

In the Titans game, Sanchez had an outstanding first drive. After that, he scored two TDs on fumbles in Jets' field goal range and mostly did nothing. It makes the job much easier for a QB when the team is in a run-first, play good defense mode.

Originally Posted by Coach

I'm not mistaking, he is making plays, no question. But NY's running game is still better than Kansas City's running game, although not much statistically-wise. 3.8 YPC to KC's 3.6.

But NY runs it more than KC (104 to 84) and they have 3 rushing TD's compared to KC's 0. It also helps their philosophy by having a solid defense as well.

I am not dismissing the run game, or the defense, but to dismiss what he has done because they are playing great defense and sticking to running the ball is denying the fact that he has been making plays.

The fact that they have stuck to the running game has put then in a lot of third and long situations, and he has been making good decisions, making great throws, and simply made plays to keep drives alive and get points on the board.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am not dismissing the run game, or the defense, but to dismiss what he has done because they are playing great defense and sticking to running the ball is denying the fact that he has been making plays.

The fact that they have stuck to the running game has put then in a lot of third and long situations, and he has been making good decisions, making great throws, and simply made plays to keep drives alive and get points on the board.

As you know, I've been really complimentary of Sanchez. I like Sanchez.

I'm just tired of people acting like we made such a monumentally bad decision based on two different situations where one has pretty good tools to work with and one has horrible tools to work with. It's not an indictment on Sanchez as much as it is people who already believe that Cassel is a huge bust.

Definitely a fair question to ask if Sanchez could do well in KC's offense and Cassel in the Jets' offense. That's not a statement that invalidates anything Sanchez has done. It's a statement that suggests that making comparisons at this juncture are completely unfair.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Coach

The bigger question we all should ask ourselves here is, would Sanchez succeed behind this awful offensive line the Chiefs employ?

I would probably incline to say "no".

Better question: Will he be a better QB in 3 years (when we actually have an O-line) at age 24 than Cassel will be at age 30?

Final question: Could we have gotten a 5 technique that is the rough equivalent of Tyson Jackson at the beginning of the 2nd and paid a metric !@#$ton less for him?

We're paying a hell of a lot more for Cassel/Jackson than we would've paid for Sanchez/2nd best 5 technique and getting less production and far less upside for our efforts.

It was a cluster!@#$ of monumental proportions for Saint Pioli.