Chiefs Pioli, Here's your clue for 2010 draft - Page 3

BigChiefFan · 11:33 AM

I've been looking over the film and collecting my notes of the players that should be in the upcoming draft, that we should give serious consideration to help improve the team. If Pioli plays his cards right he could come away with a handful of players that should improve the team by leaps and bounds and be future staples of the team for year's to come.

1st Round-WR Dez Bryant, OSU- Dez Bryant is the rare talent that brings athleticism and an ability to reel in the tough catches. So far, in just a over two seasons(plus the few games this season) he has 147 receptions, 2425 yards, 19 yard avg. reception, 29 TDs, plus 3 more TDs in the return game. Dez is the rare WR talent that comes along once every 5 years. He's the best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson. Our WRs could use a major upgrade and Bryant could go along way into improving the group.

2nd Round-DE/OLBer Sergio Kindle , Texas- Kindle is a sack artist who plays DE at Texas. He's a high motor player, who will be a tweener at the next level, making him a good fit as a 3-4 OLBer and causing his draft stock to fall some for our benefit.

2nd Round-OT Jason Fox Univ. of Miami- Fox is quickly making a name for himself as the Hurricane start to capture a national audience. Fox at 6'6'' 314 lbs. has cemented himself as the anchor to the Hurricane's offensive line.

3rd Round-NT Jeff Owens Georgia-Owens is not a true NT, but at 6'1" 306 lbs. he could probably bulk up some and give us some depth at the position. Owens is on the Bronco Nagurski watch list for top player in the nation. 64 names are submitted. He was once considered a first round prospect until he tore his ACL in the past. He's a sure tackler and strong as an ox, with a reported bench press of 535 lbs. For a 3rd round pick, he's got upside to play a starting role if he can add some mass and stay healthy.

4th round-HB Montario Hardesty-Tennessee. The SECs leading rusher has been one of the few bright spots for the Tennessee offense. Hardesty is all-around back, who can carry, catch, and block. Great value early in the
4th round. Past injury drops his stock to the 2nd day, but he projects as a starter.

5th round-OG John Jerry- Mississippi- J.J. is an outstanding prospect who has helped make Jevan Snead a household name. He's All-Sec, 1st team and at 6'5" 350 lbs., he's got brick wall potential. He also brings versatility because he's played RT, as well. I like his upside.

5th round-C Erik Olsen-Notre Dame- Olsen is a former RG turned Center this year for Weiss' Fighting Irish. He's another on the Lomabardi best O-lineman in the country watchlist. He's considered one of the top 5 Centers in this year's draft and has done a good job on the O-Line since his sophmore year in 2007.

Once again, it's all about value and who can bring some starting potential to the team. I believe everyone of those players would easily make the team, and most likely start. Thoughts?

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 12:02 PM

I wanted to put Terrance Cody down as our first, second round pick, but don't believe he will actually be there in the 2nd round.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Adding a great WR to a team that doesn't have an OL or pass rush, or much else, doesn't do much to rebuild the team.

Wrong.

Adding a true playmaker in a playmaker's league will help the team a great deal.

Adding a MFing 3-4 DE or RT prospect with a #3 pick does not.

We need a difference maker. A good edge-rusher can be had with the 2nd rounder and you damn near build an entire O-line with a handful of savvy 2nd/3rd/4th round picks.

You take your difference makers when you have a chance to get them. Get your muckers late. This team is completely devoid of players that can make something happen and that will simply not work in today's NFL.

salame · 10-14-2009, 12:05 PM

we could get arrelious benn in the second though at the top of the second

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Marcus McNeill is a second round pick, who by the way, struggled mightily in his second season.

He's also a guy I have to assume we'd have drafted if Willie Roaf had been upfront about his intentions.

Everytime I see Marcus McNeill pancake a bitch I curse the name of Willie Roaf. Oh how I hate him.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

we could get arrelious benn in the second though at the top of the second

Benn has the look of another Ted Ginn Jr. to me.

Bryant is a far more talented player and a true difference maker. I think Benn will be little more than a floater and occasional HR hitter. Essentially a younger, maybe slightly better, version of Mark Bradley.

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

we could get arrelious benn in the second though at the top of the second

Why, when we can have the BEST WR prospect since Calvin Johnson? Benn is a good player, Dez Bryant has the potential to be one of the best WRs in the league.

Chiefnj2 · 10-14-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wrong.

Adding a true playmaker in a playmaker's league will help the team a great deal.

Adding a MFing 3-4 DE or RT prospect with a #3 pick does not.

We need a difference maker. A good edge-rusher can be had with the 2nd rounder and you damn near build an entire O-line with a handful of savvy 2nd/3rd/4th round picks.

You take your difference makers when you have a chance to get them. Get your muckers late. This team is completely devoid of players that can make something happen and that will simply not work in today's NFL.

Did great WRs' help the Lions? Braylon Edwards help the Browns? Warrick help the Bengals?

Plus, KC doesn't even target Bowe all that much.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Did great WRs' help the Lions? Braylon Edwards help the Browns? Warrick help the Bengals?

Plus, KC doesn't even target Bowe all that much.

Warrick sucked. Braylon Edwards made a HUGE difference two seasons ago before he got the yips.

And yes, Calvin Johnson (the only 'great WR' the Lions have had) has absolutely helped the Lions. Do they have a lot more work to do? Absolutely, but with a legitimate playmaker on offense, they're a hell of a lot closer to consistently winning football games than KC is.

And we don't target Bowe because he's a glorified version of Jericho Cotchery. He's a possession WR and little else; he's hardly worthy of comparisons to Dez Bryant.

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Did great WRs' help the Lions? Braylon Edwards help the Browns? Warrick help the Bengals?

Plus, KC doesn't even target Bowe all that much.

Did Michael Irvin help Troy Aikman? Did Jerry Rice help Montana? Does Moss help Brady? Etc..of course, playmakers, make plays. That doesn't mean you rest on your laurels, but when you can make a substantial upgrade to a severe weakness, you do that.

**ChiefGator** · 10-14-2009, 12:15 PM

I absolutely love taking Dez Bryant in the first.. (hope he comes out). Our receivers can't get open and Bowe would make a great #2 WR, if Bryant can really live up to his apparent NFL potential. Our passing game desperately needs playmakers.

Take a bunch of o-line after that. Hopefully we get a couple decent vets in FA too though.

Chiefnj2 · 10-14-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Did Michael Irvin help Troy Aikman? Did Jerry Rice help Montana? Does Moss help Brady? Etc..of course, playmakers, make plays. That doesn't mean you rest on your laurels, but when you can make a substantial upgrade to a severe weakness, you do that.

Your comparing the Chiefs to the greatest dynasties in the NFL.

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Your comparing the Chiefs to the greatest dynasties in the NFL.

How was Aikman's first year again?

Chiefnj2 · 10-14-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

How was Aikman's first year again?

Who is our Herschel Walker to trade?

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Who is our Herschel Walker to trade?

Well, take last year's draft and this year's and you'll have a good start. Let's trade Cassel, Jackson and McGee for a first, 2nd and 3rd in this year's draft. Think anyoone will take us up on it?

Seeing as how we pissed away what amounts to an entire draft on an overpaid ancilliary position in Tyson Jackson, and another overpaid game manager; not to mention a 3rd on a guy that will only see the field by completely eliminating the value of our former #5 overall pick. It seems to me that we were in an okay position to actually get a playmaker or two over the next couple of seasons.

We didn't need a Walker trade, we needed the guys we have in charge to not do dumb shit like pay a 3-4 defensive end franchise QB money and take him #3 overall.

salame · 10-14-2009, 12:56 PM

hey I like Dez Bryant just as much as the next guy but he may not even be reinstated and if that's the case he may be there in the 2nd or 3rd anyways

10-14-2009, 10:55 AM
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	Pioli, Here's your clue for 2010 draft I've been looking over the film and collecting my notes of the players that should be in the upcoming draft, that we should give serious consideration to help improve the team. If Pioli plays his cards right he could come away with a handful of players that should improve the team by leaps and bounds and be future staples of the team for year's to come. 1st Round-WR Dez Bryant, OSU- Dez Bryant is the rare talent that brings athleticism and an ability to reel in the tough catches. So far, in just a over two seasons(plus the few games this season) he has 147 receptions, 2425 yards, 19 yard avg. reception, 29 TDs, plus 3 more TDs in the return game. Dez is the rare WR talent that comes along once every 5 years. He's the best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson. Our WRs could use a major upgrade and Bryant could go along way into improving the group. 2nd Round-DE/OLBer Sergio Kindle , Texas- Kindle is a sack artist who plays DE at Texas. He's a high motor player, who will be a tweener at the next level, making him a good fit as a 3-4 OLBer and causing his draft stock to fall some for our benefit. 2nd Round-OT Jason Fox Univ. of Miami- Fox is quickly making a name for himself as the Hurricane start to capture a national audience. Fox at 6'6'' 314 lbs. has cemented himself as the anchor to the Hurricane's offensive line. 3rd Round-NT Jeff Owens Georgia-Owens is not a true NT, but at 6'1" 306 lbs. he could probably bulk up some and give us some depth at the position. Owens is on the Bronco Nagurski watch list for top player in the nation. 64 names are submitted. He was once considered a first round prospect until he tore his ACL in the past. He's a sure tackler and strong as an ox, with a reported bench press of 535 lbs. For a 3rd round pick, he's got upside to play a starting role if he can add some mass and stay healthy. 4th round-HB Montario Hardesty-Tennessee. The SECs leading rusher has been one of the few bright spots for the Tennessee offense. Hardesty is all-around back, who can carry, catch, and block. Great value early in the 4th round. Past injury drops his stock to the 2nd day, but he projects as a starter. 5th round-OG John Jerry- Mississippi- J.J. is an outstanding prospect who has helped make Jevan Snead a household name. He's All-Sec, 1st team and at 6'5" 350 lbs., he's got brick wall potential. He also brings versatility because he's played RT, as well. I like his upside. 5th round-C Erik Olsen-Notre Dame- Olsen is a former RG turned Center this year for Weiss' Fighting Irish. He's another on the Lomabardi best O-lineman in the country watchlist. He's considered one of the top 5 Centers in this year's draft and has done a good job on the O-Line since his sophmore year in 2007. Once again, it's all about value and who can bring some starting potential to the team. I believe everyone of those players would easily make the team, and most likely start. Thoughts? Last edited by BigChiefFan; 10-14-2009 at 11:33 AM.. Reason: spelling
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10-14-2009, 12:02 PM	#31
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I wanted to put Terrance Cody down as our first, second round pick, but don't believe he will actually be there in the 2nd round. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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10-14-2009, 12:05 PM	#33
salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	we could get arrelious benn in the second though at the top of the second
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10-14-2009, 12:15 PM	#40
ChiefGator Can these boys not play? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northcentral Florida Casino cash: $6452956	I absolutely love taking Dez Bryant in the first.. (hope he comes out). Our receivers can't get open and Bowe would make a great #2 WR, if Bryant can really live up to his apparent NFL potential. Our passing game desperately needs playmakers. Take a bunch of o-line after that. Hopefully we get a couple decent vets in FA too though. __________________ - Mark
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10-14-2009, 12:56 PM	#45
salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	hey I like Dez Bryant just as much as the next guy but he may not even be reinstated and if that's the case he may be there in the 2nd or 3rd anyways
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