Peter King: Common denominator among five bad NFL teams...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DaWolf

It doesn't really matter the ages. Carl and Herm were the ones who said they were going to go "youth movement". And their youngsters brought 6 wins in 2 years.

This is patently FALSE.

The Chiefs didn't begin their "rebuild" until the 2008 draft. At that point, the team traded Jared Allen and brought in a youth at crucial positions. LT, RB, DT, TE, CB, CB and Safety.

They brought only two wins because the Chiefs went through three starting quarterbacks. Furthermore, they lost eight games by 7 points or less.

IMO, it seemed like they were building a nice, youthful foundation. Of course, Pioli disagreed and instead, neutered the team.

Originally Posted by DaWolf

These new guys never said "youth movement", they said they're going to build the team in their vision and find guys who they feel can play. Obviously thus far they haven't, but I think again we're using a fallacy in thinking that just because a veteran is playing over a young guy, the young guy is not getting experience and therefore not becoming good, while the vet sucks and is still getting the PT. When in reality, the young guy probably sucks anyway, and you're wasting time playing him because he's not ready to play. For reference, see Herm Edwards, 2007 and 2008.

What? What? WHAT?

The "young" guy should have far more potential than the "old" guy. He doesn't necessarily "suck" as he needs experience. What better way for a young player to get experience than on a 1-6 team?

Again, 2008.

Originally Posted by DaWolf

We've tried it both ways. It doesn't matter. The bottom line is someone needs to find good football players for this team, I don't care if they are 22 or 32...

We didn't "try it both ways". What the **** are you talking about?

You can't rebuild the worst roster in the league in one ****ing offseason.

Yet Pioli decided that the majority of guys chosen in the past few years aren't part of the "Right 53", so those guys are producing elsewhere.

And a 32 year old guy may or may not make it through the season so it sure as hell BETTER matter.