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Old 12-17-2009, 12:43 PM   #1
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Never experienced?

Do you really think that this abortion of a football team and coaching staff is better than last year's team and coaching?

Really?

Last year's team would have kicked the living shit out of this year's team.

Hands down.
I feel this years team would kick the shit out of last years team...

So lets just leave it at we will agree to disagree on that one...

And the bolded part? How many miles between you and I? That is how much better this year is than last....
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:50 PM   #2
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I feel this years team would kick the shit out of last years team...

So lets just leave it at we will agree to disagree on that one...

And the bolded part? How many miles between you and I? That is how much better this year is than last....


This boy done lost his damn mind....
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:02 PM   #3
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This boy done lost his damn mind....
Yep.... Sure have....
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:52 PM   #4
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I feel this years team would kick the shit out of last years team...

So lets just leave it at we will agree to disagree on that one...

And the bolded part? How many miles between you and I? That is how much better this year is than last....
Just to be another one to disagree, and to be a pain in the ass...
If the 08 Chiefs played the 09 Chiefs ...it would come down to coaching. As much as this hurts...Herm wins over Todd. Herm had respect of his players...Todd not so much, and one game Herm is the kind of coach that may make that happen. Herm kept his teams close...Todd's team gives up.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:07 PM   #5
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Just to be another one to disagree, and to be a pain in the ass...
If the 08 Chiefs played the 09 Chiefs ...it would come down to coaching. As much as this hurts...Herm wins over Todd. Herm had respect of his players...Todd not so much, and one game Herm is the kind of coach that may make that happen. Herm kept his teams close...Todd's team gives up.
Yet we have seen time and time again where coaching over the last 3 years really hurt time team... Failing with the use of timeouts, poor clock management, wtf play calls, stupid talent evaluation, playing less talented veteran players over younger better players......

Herm had the respect, because he didnt hold anyone accountable. Well expect the place kicker he drafted then cut after the first game...

There are faults on both sides. Herm should of known better, Haley is learning, not sure he is learning from his fails, but he has no where to go but up...

Just my .02$
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:16 PM   #6
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Yet we have seen time and time again where coaching over the last 3 years really hurt time team... Failing with the use of timeouts, poor clock management, wtf play calls, stupid talent evaluation, playing less talented veteran players over younger better players......

Herm had the respect, because he didnt hold anyone accountable. Well expect the place kicker he drafted then cut after the first game...

There are faults on both sides. Herm should of known better, Haley is learning, not sure he is learning from his fails, but he has no where to go but up...

Just my .02$
Haley is better than Herm. He just needs to polish his act and get an OC and a QB coach. Other than that I like his attitude and the way he wants the team to play. And he needs to replace Clancy........REALLY needs to do that.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:32 PM   #7
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Haley is better than Herm. He just needs to polish his act and get an OC and a QB coach. Other than that I like his attitude and the way he wants the team to play. And he needs to replace Clancy........REALLY needs to do that.
I agree. Haley is a better coach, and if he had more talented players, he wouldn't be as prone to making these stupid desperation calls that he makes, because he wouldn't need too.

Haley MUST work on his clock management though. That's my biggest disapointment about him. His game/clock managment is awful, but can/will improve with an OC and QB coach. Haley admits when he is wrong, has a passion for the game and wants to win BAD.

Herm was an idiot. Chan saved him from being lynched mid-way through the season. He never admitted when he was wrong and let his players run his team.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:33 PM   #8
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Haley is better than Herm. He just needs to polish his act and get an OC and a QB coach. Other than that I like his attitude and the way he wants the team to play. And he needs to replace Clancy........REALLY needs to do that.
Todd is the better coach..he just needs to replace the people he hired and fired. Isn't that part of being the head coach...getting the right people...just more bad decisions by Todd.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:09 PM   #9
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Just to be another one to disagree, and to be a pain in the ass...
If the 08 Chiefs played the 09 Chiefs ...it would come down to coaching. As much as this hurts...Herm wins over Todd. Herm had respect of his players...Todd not so much, and one game Herm is the kind of coach that may make that happen. Herm kept his teams close...Todd's team gives up.
Todd's team doesn't give up. even when they are getting blown out they still play hard. obviously, when you get blown out and are at the bottom of the league, players heads will hang, which is what we're seeing. But they aren't giving up.

Herm's 08 team couldn't finish they were awful under Herm's direction, and that was WITH TONY G. Chan Gaily saved that team. Why is it that no one can remember what that 08 team looked like before Chan installed his Pistol offense and entertained us for the rest of the season.

If the 09 team played the 08 team, the 09 team would win. The Difference? The ability to rush the passer. Let's not forget that we are on pace to double our sack total from last year. I know that isn't saying much, but it's obvious the pass rush has improved. The O-Line play this year is still better then the O-Line play of last year.

This year's team is better overall than last years. But this year's passing game is much worse. Chalk that up to the loss of TG, merry-go-round at WR, and trying to run a pro style O with a spread style QB.
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:10 PM   #10
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Todd's team doesn't give up. even when they are getting blown out they still play hard. obviously, when you get blown out and are at the bottom of the league, players heads will hang, which is what we're seeing. But they aren't giving up.

Herm's 08 team couldn't finish they were awful under Herm's direction, and that was WITH TONY G. Chan Gaily saved that team. Why is it that no one can remember what that 08 team looked like before Chan installed his Pistol offense and entertained us for the rest of the season.

Of the 09 team played the 08 team, the 09 team would win. The Difference? The ability to rush the passer. Let's not forget that we are on pace to double our sack total from last year. I know that isn't saying much, but it's obvious the pass rush has improved. The O-Line play this year is still better then the O-Line play of last year.

This year's team is better overall than last years. But this year's passing game is much worse. Chalk that up to the loss of TG, merry-go-round at WR, and trying to run a pro style O with a spread style QB.
Very good points....

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Old 12-17-2009, 02:55 PM   #11
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Never experienced?

Do you really think that this abortion of a football team and coaching staff is better than last year's team and coaching?

Really?

Last year's team would have kicked the living shit out of this year's team.

Hands down.
Last years team would have made a prison b!tch out of this years team.

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The problem is going to be assistant coach turnover. The raiding if the big names get jobs could be massive.
Nothing to worry about with that happening here.

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Shanahan or Gruden would be okay....

Coward and Holmgren? OH HELL NO!!!!

But Haley isnt going anywhere, IF a coach like Herm can take a team to depths never experienced in KC and stay 3 years... (shit there are some posters that wanted him to stay).... Then Haley should get at least 3 years...
Screw that I'd take Holmgren over any of them, not that any are bad. Holmgren made his QB's and built programs and coaching staffs from the ground up. None of the others did that, he took two teams that were horrible before he arrived, to the Superbowl.

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Just to be another one to disagree, and to be a pain in the ass...
If the 08 Chiefs played the 09 Chiefs ...it would come down to coaching. As much as this hurts...Herm wins over Todd. Herm had respect of his players...Todd not so much, and one game Herm is the kind of coach that may make that happen. Herm kept his teams close...Todd's team gives up.
Herm also had respect from other coaches. How much respect did Haley lose/earn from other coaches by cutting Chan right before the season started?
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The problem is going to be assistant coach turnover. The raiding if the big names get jobs could be massive.

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Nothing to worry about with that happening here.
Okay
If the big name coaches raid staffs. Those staffs have to be replaced and the Chiefs are looking to replace coordinators. That makes the pickings as slim as when they picked the ones they got now.
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