Haley 12/30 presser

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Please, Mr. Pioli ball-washer, tell us about progress.

First number is 2009.


Points per game: 16.7, 18.2

Points against per game: 26.7, 27.5

Total yards per game: 288, 308

Total yards against per game: 380, 393

Passing yards per game: 181, 195

Passing yards against per game: 219, 234

Rushing yards per game: 107, 113

Rushing yards against per game: 161, 158


Progress my ass.

Sure, I'll be happy to.

Better play from the LT, and the RT
Better running game
Better work at wideout when they are all together
Better play from the DEs
Better play from some of the linebackers

That's progress. You people who think that having a car with 53 parts, 45+ of which are broken, and upgrading 5-10 of those broken parts while trying to tread water with the rest is going to suddenly make the car run first in NASCAR races are just being ridiculous. I noted early on that the progress might not show up in wins:

Evaluating this team based upon wins and losses, or your perception of 'suck' is exactly what you don't do with a team this bad. This team will need to be evaluated based upon progress towards EVENTUAL consistently competitive teams, or the lack thereof....

...Pioli walked into a situation with a team that had only one core talent under the age of 30, and that player has only had one season. This team had a 30+ tight end and a 30- left tackle, and that's it. No other player on this team had cemented himself as the kind of high end talent that you want on Super Bowl contenders, especially at the core positions (middle of the field on defense, QB, LT, RB, #1 WR on offense). Even if you were to stretch and toss Bowe in that group (and I could easily be convinced to add him to the mix if he would just show improvement on his drop issue), that's still only two on the entire team.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ns#post5808969

The problem with you, and so many of the other complainers, is that you don't think about the overall scope of the problem, and you focus your bitching on things that are contingent upon improvements elsewhere. There was no way that the team was going to be able to fix every problem in 1 or 2 seasons, yet the bitching has been almost non-stop.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Sure, I'll be happy to.

Better play from the LT, and the RT
Better running game
Better work at wideout when they are all together
Better play from the DEs
Better play from some of the linebackers

With the exception of Dorsey, every single thing you posted is bullshit.

Albert has regressed, O'Callaghan is no better than McIntosh.

The running game is not better, as shown in the stats. We're averaging 6 fewer yards.

Bowe has regressed severely, and Wade is no upgrade. Chambers, as I've said, is.

Dorsey seems to be growing into his new role, but Jackson looks abysmal, and the yards allowed numbers show the weakness of this team is the front 7.

Which leads to the LB's, who have been ****ing pathetic. Hali has shown he can rush the passer standing upright, but is still a huge liability against the run, just like the other 3.

But please, keep sucking off the Executive of the Decade.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

With the exception of Dorsey, every single thing you posted is bullshit.

Albert has regressed, O'Callaghan is no better than McIntosh.

The running game is not better, as shown in the stats. We're averaging 6 fewer yards.

Bowe has regressed severely, and Wade is no upgrade. Chambers, as I've said, is.

Dorsey seems to be growing into his new role, but Jackson looks abysmal, and the yards allowed numbers show the weakness of this team is the front 7.

Which leads to the LB's, who have been ****ing pathetic. Hali has shown he can rush the passer standing upright, but is still a huge liability against the run, just like the other 3.

But please, keep sucking off the Executive of the Decade.

Was Johnson running better than his replacement?
Are you claiming Albert is playing worse now that at the beginning of the year?
You're seriously claiming that McIntosh was playing as well as O'Callaghan?
Is the receiving corps as currently constituted a lesser group than what began the year?
You concede Dorsey and then make that idiotic statement about yards allowed as if it means something?
You think that Hali hasn't improved over the course of the season?


Thanks for showing just how much of an idiot you are.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

With the exception of Dorsey, every single thing you posted is bullshit.

Albert has regressed, is no better than McIntosh.

The running game is not better, as shown in the stats. We're averaging 6 fewer yards.

Bowe has regressed severely, and Wade is no upgrade. Chambers, as I've said, is.

Dorsey seems to be growing into his new role, but Jackson looks abysmal, and the yards allowed numbers show the weakness of this team is the front 7.

Which leads to the LB's, who have been ****ing pathetic. Hali has shown he can rush the passer standing upright, but is still a huge liability against the run, just like the other 3.

But please, keep sucking off the Executive of the Decade.

Albert and O'Callaghan are improving, and on the upswing. You know Albert has had to change in order to improve, and he is doing it. The whole offensive line has improved dramatically.


The running game is dramatically on the upswing, surely you see that. I don't give a **** what any numbers may say for the whole year, **** that.


Bowe missed four games from breaking the rules, sorry, it is what it is. I am thinking he will be a TE hybrid slot guy next year. Too bad he doesn't have
Tony to take the heat off of him anymore.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

The running game is dramatically on the upswing, surely you see that. I don't give a **** what any numbers may say for the whole year, **** that.
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It's absolutely improving. So why did we waste so much time with Mr. 2.7 YPC?

Many on this board were saying that it was clear that LJ was NOT the best back in the pre-season. For example, milkman said this multiple times--so did OTW and myself, but, alas...

I don't want to hear about fumbles, since they're still a concern with Charles. What we're seeing is that what he brings to the game far outweighs his negatives.

Too bad Haley wasn't able to see this sooner.

milkman for HC.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's absolutely improving. So why did we waste so much time with Mr. 2.7 YPC?

Many on this board were saying that it was clear that LJ was NOT the best back in the pre-season. For example, milkman said this multiple times--so did OTW and myself, but, alas...

I don't want to hear about fumbles, since they're still a concern with Charles. What we're seeing is that what he brings to the game far outweighs his negatives.

Too bad Haley wasn't able to see this sooner.

milkman for HC.

Now, see... this is a legitimate gripe. I can't give you an answer, although it's easy to speculate.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's absolutely improving. So why did we waste so much time with Mr. 2.7 YPC?

Many on this board were saying that it was clear that LJ was NOT the best back in the pre-season. For example, milkman said this multiple times--so did OTW and myself, but, alas...

I don't want to hear about fumbles, since they're still a concern with Charles. What we're seeing is that what he brings to the game far outweighs his negatives.

Too bad Haley wasn't able to see this sooner.

milkman for HC.

Why did they waste so much time? For a guy with Ljs credentials, you need to make DAMN sure before you let him go. It took them 1/2 a season, not too bad IMO.