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Old 01-01-2010, 10:32 AM  
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We are not taking a QB in the first round

Just the official thread stating it. I'm not sure why some of you are already blowing this horn.

Just keep reading the title of this thread until it ****ing sinks in.

And I'm not even a Cassel fan, but he's going to be given more than 1 season to show he is or is not the guy.

I know all the bullshit arguments that will come forth.

"He's not a rookie, he's a seasoned vet" blah blah ****ing blah. I don't give a shit. I'm talking about reality. They gave him 60 mil. Even if Cassel never improves on this season (which I actually think he will, even if I'm not a fan), GM's don't admit to failures that quickly. Pioli will give him every chance to prove that he's right. He drafted him, he signed him to a 60 million dollar contract. Those of you you think that Pioli is going to turn right around and draft a QB with our first pick are ****ing morons. Yes, you are. It's ENTIRELY out of the question so please stop wasting discussion time with it.

Thank you and have a nice new years day.
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:33 PM   #196
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this year sucked but imo it's too early to kick Pioli in the nuts about it.
I think he deserves to be kicked squarely in the nuts, but he also deserves more time before we can proclaim him a success or failure.

At this point, all I'm saying is that all indications are leaning toward the latter.

Who knows...maybe he'll be ****ing nails this off-season? And we'll all be talking about "the process" it took to get to that point. Maybe...

My guess is that this won't transpire, mainly because I've been burned by a disconcertingly similar scenario in a different sport. But I'm definitely willing (and hopeful) to be wrong.
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:33 PM   #197
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When your best acquisition for a team that went 2-14 the year before is a kicker taken in the 7th round, you have failed epicly.
FIRE PIOLI RAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:34 PM   #198
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Herm Edwards was an awful coach that when fired no one thought we could be any worse, that point is arguable now because Haley has been no better.
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:35 PM   #199
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Herm Edwards was an awful coach that when fired no one thought we could be any worse, that point is arguable now because Haley has been no better.
You sure about this?
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:35 PM   #200
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Haley's done some good things and some things that haven't been quite so good. That's the nature of coaching, particular when dealing with rookie coaches. The notion that Edwards was a better coach based upon Haley's one year of tenure in comparison to what Edwards failed to accomplish in Kansas City is laughable.
How many Chiefs games have you seen this year? And what percentage of each of these games have you watched closely?

Haley has been an absolute abomination on Sundays. It's not hyperbole when I say he's been the single worst game day coach that I've ever seen in KC.

Now, the question is whether he'll improve with experience and, most importantly, less on his plate.
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You sure about this?
Yea pretty sure, as are several other people here.

Todd Haley has been a brutal coach, but hey maybe he'll just wake up one day and not be a moron like some suggest.
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:36 PM   #202
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How many Chiefs games have you seen this year? And what percentage of each of these games have you watched closely?

Haley has been an absolute abomination on Sundays. It's not hyperbole when I say he's been the single worst game day coach that I've ever seen in KC.

Now, the question is whether he'll improve with experience and, most importantly, less on his plate.
Jesus dude, you hate of Haley, is reaching Reerun levels of Herm Hate....
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:37 PM   #203
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Jesus dude, you hate of Haley, is reaching Reerun levels of Herm Hate....
It's not even hate, it's truth. The guy does stuff that people won't even do on video games.
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:37 PM   #204
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Yea pretty sure, as are several other people here.

Todd Haley has been a brutal coach, but hey maybe he'll just wake up one day and not be a moron like some suggest.
Fair enough...


He will mostly likely get another year if not 3.... So next year is going to be very telling...

He has to get a OC and QB coach... Cant be debated. He has to have those...
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:37 PM   #205
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Herm Edwards was an awful coach that when fired no one thought we could be any worse, that point is arguable now because Haley has been no better.
Ok, I'm going to need you to explain something to me...

Pioli sucks and has been "epic fail"
Haley sucks and Herm was better
Cassel sucks and is just Thigpen getting paid more
Only 2 players have been better than those they replaced and some replacements are worse
The team's schedule was harder this year than last


How did the team manage to win more games AND have all of the above be true?
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Jesus dude, you hate of Haley, is reaching Reerun levels of Herm Hate....
I don't hate him.

I do hate his inability to be a competent coach on Sundays.
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It's not even hate, it's truth. The guy does stuff that people won't even do on video games.
What is sad? So did Herm and Herm was in the league as a HC for years already...
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Ok, I'm going to need you to explain something to me...

Pioli sucks and has been "epic fail"
Haley sucks and Herm was better
Cassel sucks and is just Thigpen getting paid more
Only 2 players have been better than those they replaced and some replacements are worse
The team's schedule was harder this year than last


How did the team manage to win more games AND have all of the above be true?
You do realize that the schedule is weaker, right?

And, let's throw out the ubiquitous, horse ****ing shit luck.
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I don't hate him.

I do hate his inability to be a competent coach on Sundays.
Understand. I spent the last 3 years feelign the exact same way!
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How many Chiefs games have you seen this year? And what percentage of each of these games have you watched closely?

Haley has been an absolute abomination on Sundays. It's not hyperbole when I say he's been the single worst game day coach that I've ever seen in KC.

Now, the question is whether he'll improve with experience and, most importantly, less on his plate.
I've watched all but 2 of the games, and he hasn't been anything near as bad as what you portray. And if you really think he's been a worse game day coach than Herm, you've just lost all credibility you might have had with me when it comes to evaluating such things.
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