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Old 01-02-2010, 06:42 PM   #1
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It was pretty obvious Cassel wasn't asked to do much to get his NE stats, NE lead the league in YAC yards by a significant margin.

The stats bear it out but it was obvious even when watching everything was designed on letting him throw simple passes.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:47 PM   #2
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It was pretty obvious Cassel wasn't asked to do much to get his NE stats, NE lead the league in YAC yards by a significant margin.

The stats bear it out but it was obvious even when watching everything was designed on letting him throw simple passes.
FWIW, this year, he's 44/119 on passes over 10 yards, for a 37% completion percentage.

57% of his yardage comes from passes thrown 10 yards or less.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:49 PM   #3
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FWIW, this year, he's 44/119 on passes over 10 yards, for a 37% completion percentage.

57% of his yardage comes from passes thrown 10 yards or less.
To be fair... longer passes require better protection. Just sayin'
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:52 PM   #4
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To be fair... longer passes require better protection. Just sayin'
Fine. Let's go with this.

Then, how do you explain the numbers BossChief produced?
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:54 PM   #5
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To be fair... longer passes require better protection. Just sayin'
Funny, his stats are almost identical from last year to this year.

Unless you want to try to claim that the Pats OL last year was terrible - you know, the same line that has allowed less than half the sacks this year.

He just isn't an accurate downfield passer, and some of us have been saying that since before he was traded here.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:48 PM   #6
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It was pretty obvious Cassel wasn't asked to do much to get his NE stats, NE lead the league in YAC yards by a significant margin.

The stats bear it out but it was obvious even when watching everything was designed on letting him throw simple passes.
Unless I've missed a bunch of pro-Cassel talk somewhere in the last few pages, I think you're trying to convince a bunch of people that didn't really want Cassel in the first place that they shouldn't want him now.

We're all in the same boat, my friend: hoping that Cassel turns into something because he's probably going to be here for a while. Whether we like it or not. Which is why I haven't dogged the guy since the trade was made, and why I haven't dogged the guy all year. It's not because I liked it. It's because I didn't want to give myself an ulcer.

Let's put it this way: he may not be the best option, but right now he's the only option, for good or ill. I hope to christ below he exceeds all our expectations.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:52 PM   #7
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Unless I've missed a bunch of pro-Cassel talk somewhere in the last few pages, I think you're trying to convince a bunch of people that didn't really want Cassel in the first place that they shouldn't want him now.

We're all in the same boat, my friend: hoping that Cassel turns into something because he's probably going to be here for a while. Whether we like it or not. Which is why I haven't dogged the guy since the trade was made, and why I haven't dogged the guy all year. It's not because I liked it. It's because I didn't want to give myself an ulcer.

Let's put it this way: he may not be the best option, but right now he's the only option, for good or ill. I hope to christ below he exceeds all our expectations.
This is my only argument. I don't think Cassel has had the greatest pieces around him, but right now he's going to be the only option because he's Pioli's guy. So we're going to sink or swim with him. I only hope that somehow he finds a way to become more accurate on his deep throws and that his pocket awareness improves. Generally those aren't things a QB gets better at so we're pretty much SOL.

Either way, point is, we're still not drafting a QB with our first pick so talking about it in realistic fashion is stupid. We're not doing it. End of story.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:56 PM   #8
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This is my only argument. I don't think Cassel has had the greatest pieces around him, but right now he's going to be the only option because he's Pioli's guy. So we're going to sink or swim with him. I only hope that somehow he finds a way to become more accurate on his deep throws and that his pocket awareness improves. Generally those aren't things a QB gets better at so we're pretty much SOL.

Either way, point is, we're still not drafting a QB with our first pick so talking about it in realistic fashion is stupid. We're not doing it. End of story.
I agree with this 100%

However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to talk about it, especially considering many think we SHOULD do it, even though they know we WON'T.

I'll take any degree of football talk over the alternative.
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