Could This Lump Power the Planet?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

I'm not arguing any of that BS. I'm stating that Right Wingers (the populace) hate government programs. This is one of them. I would think the Right Wingers would want this ended. Unless of course, they are hypocrites.

OIC, you're a simpleton. I'm so sorry.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

OIC, you're a simpleton. I'm so sorry.

I like your takes on Howard Stern and the general entertainment world so much more.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

I like your takes on Howard Stern and the general entertainment world so much more.

What in the world do you expect when you come in with 'obtuse generality about a political opponent' then I reply with specific critiques from both sides of the aisle, THEN you reply 'Ah doan care 'bout pacifics, I like mah obtoos genuhalittty'

Maybe it'd be better if I let you keep your take, and counter with 'meddlesome libs probably hate this because they hate cheap plentiful energy because it robs them of the opportunity to micromanage our lives for 'the greater good.'' And we can just keep shouting past each other.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

What in the world do you expect when you come in with 'obtuse generality about a political opponent' then I reply with specific critiques from both sides of the aisle, THEN you reply 'Ah doan care 'bout pacifics, I like mah obtoos genuhalittty'

Maybe it'd be better if I let you keep your take, and counter with 'meddlesome libs probably hate this because they hate cheap plentiful energy because it robs them of the opportunity to micromanage our lives for 'the greater good.'' And we can just keep shouting past each other.

There's some truth to what I said. But I do agree with you that I was generalizing. You weren't supposed to call me on it! I did do it to get Donger's goat and it worked like a charm if you saw his response.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

There's some truth to what I said. But I do agree with you that I was generalizing. You weren't supposed to call me on it! I did do it to get Donger's goat and it worked like a charm if you saw his response.

Not speaking for all RWers, but I support government programs that tackle;

1) defense
2) infrastructure
3) technology and understanding of our physical world.

What I oppose is programs that try to manipulate the economy and human interaction [beyond the three angles above]. And I oppose them, not because I don't want the government to try to help people, but because I recognize in human nature that, for every attempt to help, there is a reaction to game the system to our own greatest satisfaction.

So we're stuck between, a free market with those good at capitalism getting rich and those who aren't languishing in poverty, or a progressive government with those good at cozying up to government getting rich and those who aren't languishing at entitlement/subsistance level. And in the second instance, those ill-gotten gains are taken from us with our permission and acquiesence, and entitlement/subsistence existence paralyzises us from action and achievement.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Not speaking for all RWers, but I support government programs that tackle;

1) defense
2) infrastructure
3) technology and understanding of our physical world.

What I oppose is programs that try to manipulate the economy and human interaction [beyond the three angles above]. And I oppose them, not because I don't want the government to try to help people, but because I recognize in human nature that, for every attempt to help, there is a reaction to game the system to our own greatest satisfaction.

So we're stuck between, a free market with those good at capitalism getting rich and those who aren't languishing in poverty, or a progressive government with those good at cozying up to government getting rich and those who aren't languishing at entitlement/subsistance level. And in the second instance, those ill-gotten gains are taken from us with our permission and acquiesence, and entitlement/subsistence existence paralyzises us from action and achievement.

Good post. I lean further left than that as you know. I support government provided safety nets in some areas and I feel they are important to countries who are not part of the 3rd world. I also believe that our defense spending needs to be scaled way back. We already outspend the rest of the entire planet combined by a long shot. Of course we won't change each other's mind though, so I think where we may have common ground might be on social issues, just based on what I've read of your posts. I could be wrong about that though.