CBA: "I dont think we are making any progress."

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by milkman

The problem is that you have the new breed of owners, like Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder.

They not only change the dynamics of negotiating between the league and players, but affect the dynamics bewteen the owners.

If they (the owners) can't even agree amongst themselves, there's no way they can get an agreement in place with the union.

Yeah, I fear that it's not good that NFL teams are toys to a significant portion of owners. I guess I couldn't say for sure, but my instincts tell me that it's better to have a league of owners for whom the football team is their major asset.

Eh, in retrospect that can't be many owners, though. It's not like the Hunts or Ralph Wilson built their wealth from football.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yeah, I fear that it's not good that NFL teams are toys to a significant portion of owners. I guess I couldn't say for sure, but my instincts tell me that it's better to have a league of owners for whom the football team is their major asset.

Eh, in retrospect that can't be many owners, though. It's not like the Hunts or Ralph Wilson built their wealth from football.

I think that back in the day, when the NFL was trying to establish itself, they saw how the AFL was able to not only survive and compete with the NFL, but thrive as the result of sharing TV revenues, and those owners had the vision to understand how that formed a more compelling product by expanding on the idea of revenue sharing.

These owners today can only see the money they think they're losing by sharing revenue.

They don't remember how the league struggled to gain a foothold among sports fans and how revenue sharing is largely responsible for creating the mega billion product that we have today.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by milkman

I think that back in the day, when the NFL was trying to establish itself, they saw how the AFL was able to not only survive and compete with the NFL, but thrive as the result of sharing TV revenues, and those owners had the vision to understand how that formed a more compelling product by expanding on the idea of revenue sharing.

These owners today can only see the money they think they're losing by sharing revenue.

They don't remember how the league struggled to gain a foothold among sports fans and how revenue sharing is largely responsible for creating the mega billion product that we have today.

How much money would Jerruh lose if his palace sat empty for a season?