NFL Draft Senior Bowl Week - Page 6

philfree · 01-25-2010, 12:19 AM

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There is definately some players for us to watch this week. The DE/OLB tweeners and the NTs. Taylor Mays will get a chance to show he can cover and make plays. Iupati an Ducasse...ect.

PhilFree

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-26-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I think you can even wait to take a WR until the 3rd, 4th or 5th round and get quality.

Define quality.

I think there's a decent drop-off after Bryant, Williams, LaFell, Tate, Benn and Gilyard.

Not so much because of talent, but because of injury history with a lot of those guys.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-26-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

This is true.

I like Golden Tate or if Brandon LaFell or Damian Williams dropped, but I also think you can get good value for interior OL at the 2b spot.

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I like Golden Tate or if Brandon LaFell or Damian Williams dropped, but I also think you can get good value for interior OL at the 2b spot.

As a Notre Dame fan....I'd be ecstatic if we drafted Tate.....but I seriously doubt he drops to our second pick in round 2.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-26-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Define quality.

I think there's a decent drop-off after Bryant, Williams, LaFell, Tate, Benn and Gilyard.

Bryant wont be available in round 2. Williams or LaFell probably wont be either, but as I stated in the earlier post I like them if they fell.

Benn and Gilyard are not worth drafting in round 2. Gilyard maybe late round 3, but I don't want Benn.

After round 3 I like Shipley, Ford, Blair White or later in the draft Briscoe, McGaha or Riley Cooper.

Dayze · 01-26-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Sombody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but say we draft a NT.

Say Cody or Williams out of Tenn, I think we all agree we need a NT bad but yes any 330+ NT is going to be a two down guy.

Naturally on 3rd an longs they'll sub in other quicker guys to pass rush.

I mean don't the Pats with Wilfork or the Steelers with Hampton take those guys out on 3rd & passing situations? I'd have to watch more of their games to know for sure but I'm assuming they do.

So whatever NT we draft, if he's a two down guy, I'm fine with that. Just as long as he stuffs the run getting us to those 3rd and longs.

changing subject:

And I'm also a fan of Alexander. I've seen how San Diego runs their offense with big WRs and essentially deep jump balls and I'd like to see some of that in KC.

I don't think they'll be expecting a pass rush from a NT. Occupy 1 or 2 blockers; maybe play a lot of 2 gap.
They need a massive body in the middle that won't be easily pushed off the line by a single OL.

The pass rush will come from blitz schemes / zone blitzes to confuse protections and QBs.

My $.02.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-26-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

After round 3 I like Shipley, Ford, Blair White or later in the draft Briscoe, McGaha or Riley Cooper.

Huge drop-off there, IMHO.

Like Joe Thomas-to-Joe Staley-like drop in talent.

If we're going to bother drafting a WR, we need a legit threat - not JAG.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-26-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Huge drop-off there, IMHO.

Like Joe Thomas-to-Joe Staley-like drop in talent.

If we're going to bother drafting a WR, we need a legit threat - not JAG.

I don't think you get LaFell, Tate or Williams with #50/51 and I'd prefer to spend #36 on a defensive stud.

beer bacon · 01-26-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Huge drop-off there, IMHO.

Like Joe Thomas-to-Joe Staley-like drop in talent.

If we're going to bother drafting a WR, we need a legit threat - not JAG.

I don't know about the other two, but there isn't much of a drop off if any between Shipley and Briscoe.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-26-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Sombody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but say we draft a NT.

Say Cody or Williams out of Tenn, I think we all agree we need a NT bad but yes any 330+ NT is going to be a two down guy.

Naturally on 3rd an longs they'll sub in other quicker guys to pass rush.

I mean don't the Pats with Wilfork or the Steelers with Hampton take those guys out on 3rd & passing situations? I'd have to watch more of their games to know for sure but I'm assuming they do.

So whatever NT we draft, if he's a two down guy, I'm fine with that. Just as long as he stuffs the run getting us to those 3rd and longs.

changing subject:

And I'm also a fan of Alexander. I've seen how San Diego runs their offense with big WRs and essentially deep jump balls and I'd like to see some of that in KC.

Most of the truly great NTs of the past several years, Jamaal Williams and Hampton, for example, were three down players until they hit their 30's.

Wilfork has normally been a two down player, but I personally think he's a little overrated.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-26-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I don't think you get LaFell, Tate or Williams with #50/51 and I'd prefer to spend #36 on a defensive stud.

You're right, you probably don't.

But that doesn't mean we should waste a later pick just to draft a WR.

To me, Denario Alexander with our R3 pick is about the last guy you could grab that is more than JAG. And that's if he runs a decent 40.

Everyone else you listed - Shipley, Briscoe, Ford, White, etc?

JAG.

Pushead2 · 01-26-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Most of the truly great NTs of the past several years, Jamaal Williams and Hampton, for example, were three down players until they hit their 30's.

Wilfork has normally been a two down player, but I personally think he's a little overrated.

But they clog the gap...positional players. sure GB wasn't the greatest but he did his job by filling in the gaps needed for LB's to make plays. Same Goes for Wilfork.

**The Franchise** · 01-26-2010, 10:55 AM

I personally think that Dan Williams could play all three downs.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-26-2010, 10:59 AM

Dan Williams is someone I'd be willing to sacrifice two picks for if he drops below 20.

Pushead2 · 01-26-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dan Williams is someone I'd be willing to sacrifice two picks for if he drops below 20.

Indeed!!

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-26-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You're right, you probably don't.

But that doesn't mean we should waste a later pick just to draft a WR.

To me, Denario Alexander with our R3 pick is about the last guy you could grab that is more than JAG. And that's if he runs a decent 40.

Everyone else you listed - Shipley, Briscoe, Ford, White, etc?

JAG.

I don't see any of the guys I listed as being a #1 WR. However, I think Shipley, Ford and Cooper can all be very successful when utilized properly.

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