Sources: Cavaliers close to deal for Stoudemire

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Stoudemire has all the potential in the world and is a very good shooter for a guy his size. Before his micro-fracture surgery he absolutely killed Tim Duncan in the playoffs, he averaged like 35 points and 15 rebounds in a series against he Spurs one year.

Operative phrase: before his microfracture surgery.

He's never been the same player since. His explosiveness is gone.

Combine that with putting him and Shaq in the same front court, and you have a defensive apocalypse.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Operative phrase: before his microfracture surgery.

He's never been the same player since. His explosiveness is gone.

Combine that with putting him and Shaq in the same front court, and you have a defensive apocalypse.

Ilgauskas isn't the best post defender in the world either and Cleveland was doing fine defensively. Really Verajo is the only good defending big the Cavs have.

Amare is still one of if not the most athletic big guy in the NBA. Cleveland has excellent perimeter defenders and they will make Amare's job a lot easier.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Ilgauskas isn't the best post defender in the world either and Cleveland was doing fine defensively. Really Verajo is the only good defending big the Cavs have.

Amare is still one of if not the most athletic big guy in the NBA. Cleveland has excellent perimeter defenders and they will make Amare's job a lot easier.

Cleveland is a tremendous regular season team, but I think that their inadequacies will manifest themselves in the playoffs far beyond what they appear to be now.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Cleveland is a tremendous regular season team, but I think that their inadequacies will manifest themselves in the playoffs far beyond what they appear to be now.

Maybe so. The Cavs haven't had a lot of talent the past 3 or 4 years but if they get a guy like Stoudemire they are going to be very tough to beat.

They will be able to get a lot of opposing Centers and PF's into foul trouble with LeBron, Shaq, and Amare.

[Psyko Tek]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

They will be able to get a lot of opposing Centers and PF's into foul trouble with LeBron, Shaq, and Amare.

A'm'a'r'e' os constantly in foul trouble

I just want the suns to get a1st or 2nd and 3rd for him
and then it's bye-bye

no d
no boards
can't create

hell I'ld rather play Looooouuu Admunsen and lopez

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

A'm'a'r'e' os constantly in foul trouble

I just want the suns to get a1st or 2nd and 3rd for him
and then it's bye-bye

no d
no boards
can't create

hell I'ld rather play Looooouuu Admunsen and lopez

If I were the Cavs, I'd offer them a 3rd. I know it's off topic, but who do you think the Chiefs should draft in the 8th round this year?

[Basileus777]

The great JJ Hickson.

Salary dump trades are ruining the NBA. This would be one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history. I don't know how anyone could think that trading a garbage man like Hickson for one of the best pick and roll bigs in the league wouldn't make the Cavs a better team. Amare has a nice mid-range shot and would be nasty playing with LeBron. Seriously, LeBron is making JJ Hickson look decent by feeding him easy baskets.

If the Suns trade for Ilgauskas and waive him (which they probably will), that essentially means they traded the Cavaliers JJ Hickson for Shaq and Amare.