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Old 03-02-2010, 04:29 PM   #1
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Yes, I picked "prayer" because it was a prayer thread. Therefore, according to your "the prefix tells me where to post" standard, I was in good shape.
I don't have a "the prefix tells me where to post" standard. In fact, there can't be a "prefix tells me where to post" standard since anyone could rationalize literally any thread in DC under several literally any post in DC using just a couple of the prefixes in the Lounge.

"News"
"Life"
"Science"
"Money"
"Prayer"
"Weather"

Not to mention the way too easy... "Misc" and "Poop"

Just because you can find a way to rationalize that something is (some Lounge prefix) doesn't mean it's not political.

The standard should be "if it's about public policy, hot button political topics, political news, politicians, religion or religious news" then it should stay in DC.

I'd say that the lone exception (policed by the judgement of the mods) should be major national or local KC news stories. That's a judgement call of the Mods but it's rare.

Dick Cheney going into the hospital for the Nth time isn't a major news story. Neither is Obama getting a clean bill of health.
Praying for Obama to quit smoking or Cheney to get healthy or Biden to shut his mouth aren't exceptions either.

Bush or Cheney or Gore or Clinton or Obama or Biden dying would probably qualify as an exception.
Kerry or McCain or even Palin would be a close call but I'd lean toward major national news.
Emanuel Cleaver dying would definitely qualify as an exception (because it's a major KC story).
Stephanie Tubbs Jones dying wouldn't.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:41 PM   #2
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I don't have a "the prefix tells me where to post" standard. In fact, there can't be a "prefix tells me where to post" standard since anyone could rationalize literally any thread in DC under several literally any post in DC using just a couple of the prefixes in the Lounge.

"News"
"Life"
"Science"
"Money"
"Prayer"
"Weather"

Not to mention the way too easy... "Misc" and "Poop"

Just because you can find a way to rationalize that something is (some Lounge prefix) doesn't mean it's not political.

The standard should be "if it's about public policy, hot button political topics, political news, politicians, religion or religious news" then it should stay in DC.

I'd say that the lone exception (policed by the judgement of the mods) should be major national or local KC news stories. That's a judgement call of the Mods but it's rare.

Dick Cheney going into the hospital for the Nth time isn't a major news story. Neither is Obama getting a clean bill of health.
Praying for Obama to quit smoking or Cheney to get healthy or Biden to shut his mouth aren't exceptions either.

Bush or Cheney or Gore or Clinton or Obama or Biden dying would probably qualify as an exception.
Kerry or McCain or even Palin would be a close call but I'd lean toward major national news.
Emanuel Cleaver dying would definitely qualify as an exception (because it's a major KC story).
Stephanie Tubbs Jones dying wouldn't.
You're all over the map on this. First you've got a "prefix tells me where to post" standard that makes it impossible to make the mistakes that you were apparently prone to make (wink wink) and now you don't have a "prefix tells me where to post" because the prefixes don't give enough guidance. Pick a position and stick with it.

Needless to say, I don't find any of your various evolving standards compelling. I know I've never posted a political thread in the Lounge, "accidentally" or otherwise, whether there were prefixes or not. But I can remember you arguing that a thread you posted was news when people like Frazod were trying to say you were violating this rule. I remember that because I stuck up for you at the time and because that's when I first pointed out that the same thread posted by a poster like Rain Man or FAX would have been allowed. In addition to being a mess, you're a hypocrite just like when you were a hypocrite after you created the 2004 election mess and then joined the pro-banishment side in the aftermath. I come to the reluctant conclusion that this board would have been a lot better off if we'd have just banned you instead of splitting the forum.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:56 PM   #3
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You're all over the map on this. First you've got a "prefix tells me where to post" standard that makes it impossible to make the mistakes that you were apparently prone to make (wink wink) and now you don't have a "prefix tells me where to post" because the prefixes don't give enough guidance. Pick a position and stick with it.

Needless to say, I don't find any of your various evolving standards compelling. I know I've never posted a political thread in the Lounge, "accidentally" or otherwise, whether there were prefixes or not. But I can remember you arguing that a thread you posted was news when people like Frazod were trying to say you were violating this rule. I remember that because I stuck up for you at the time and because that's when I first pointed out that the same thread posted by a poster like Rain Man or FAX would have been allowed. In addition to being a mess, you're a hypocrite just like when you were a hypocrite after you created the 2004 election mess and then joined the pro-banishment side in the aftermath. I come to the reluctant conclusion that this board would have been a lot better off if we'd have just banned you instead of splitting the forum.
You are either delusional or a liar. You invent this "'prefix tells me where to post' standard" claim, ascribe it to me and then when I tell you I reject it and explain how it's nonsensical, you claim I'm all over the map.

The worst of DC-patteeu right here in the Lounge. Sweet.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:59 PM   #4
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You are either delusional or a liar. You invent this "'prefix tells me where to post' standard" claim, ascribe it to me and then when I tell you I reject it and explain how it's nonsensical, you claim I'm all over the map.

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Old 03-02-2010, 06:02 PM   #5
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You are either delusional or a liar. You invent this "'prefix tells me where to post' standard" claim, ascribe it to me and then when I tell you I reject it and explain how it's nonsensical, you claim I'm all over the map.

The worst of DC-patteeu right here in the Lounge. Sweet.
One of the worst things about you is your hair trigger for calling people liars. It's a serious character flaw, IMO.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:10 PM   #6
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One of the worst things about you is your hair trigger for calling people liars. It's a serious character flaw, IMO.
So is actually being one.
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:00 PM   #7
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One of the worst things about you is your hair trigger for calling people liars. It's a serious character flaw, IMO.
I'd say lying and claiming that I established any prefix "standard" is a rather obvious character flaw. Being delusional is merely a personal failure beyond your control.

I'm betting you are lying, but who knows.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:44 AM   #8
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I'd say lying and claiming that I established any prefix "standard" is a rather obvious character flaw. Being delusional is merely a personal failure beyond your control.

I'm betting you are lying, but who knows.
I think you'd do well to take that position more often, given that you're so regularly wrong when you try to tell us what other people are thinking.
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