Lilja is a Chief per 810

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And you received a legitimate answer. /Swift

I call BS

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I call BS

On what?

I answered the question very clearly. Directly? Eh. But very, very clearly.

So let me be more direct: At this point I've seen precious little evidence to suggest that Pioli wouldn't **** up a wet dream, so until he provides otherwise, I'll consider him to have the talent evaluating skills of his soul mate, Dayton Moore.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

On what?

I answered the question very clearly. Directly? Eh. But very, very clearly.

So let me be more direct: At this point I've seen precious little evidence to suggest that Pioli wouldn't **** up a wet dream, so until he provides otherwise, I'll consider him to have the talent evaluating skills of his soul mate, Dayton Moore.

I don't think you answered my question so I will try again. Are the Chiefs stupid for cutting Alleman and are the Colts smart for signing him or vice versa?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't think you answered my question so I will try again. Are the Chiefs stupid for cutting Alleman and are the Colts smart for signing him or vice versa?

I'm sorry that you didn't understand my initial post because, again, I answered the question.

How did the Chiefs acquire Alleman, again? Oh, and how did the Colts acquire him? And what is his role going to be in Indy, since they also gave up something to get him?

I always like fictitious binaries.

But...right now, keeping Alleman would make far more sense than signing Lilja. But I wouldn't have made the trade for him in the first place.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I'm sorry that you didn't understand my initial post because, again, I answered the question.

How did the Chiefs acquire Alleman, again? Oh, and how did the Colts acquire him? And what is his role going to be in Indy, since they also gave up something to get him?

I always like fictitious binaries.

But...right now, keeping Alleman would make far more sense than signing Lilja. But I wouldn't have made the trade for him in the first place.

I wasn't trying to create a fictitious binary I was just asking a question. Pioli and now Polian saw something in the guy to give him a roster spot. Of course so did 3 other teams in 3 years and each time he got cut\traded.

Do you remember what pick we traded for Alleman\Ndukwe?

I like the signing of Lilja as long as he is healthy. He is fairly young and should be in the prime of his career. He is a definite upgrade over anything we had at the position.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I wasn't trying to create a fictitious binary I was just asking a question. Pioli and now Polian saw something in the guy to give him a roster spot. Of course so did 3 other teams in 3 years and each time he got cut\traded.

Do you remember what pick we traded for Alleman\Ndukwe?

I like the signing of Lilja as long as he is healthy. He is fairly young and should be in the prime of his career. He is a definite upgrade over anything we had at the position.

My bad.

I believe it was a late-round selection. We don't have any 6th or 7th rounders, for example.

Here's my deal. Yeah, people saw something in Alleman, just like Pioli, who saw enough to give up something of real value in return. Yes, I'm one of those idiots who think even 6th or 7th round selections can be meaningful.

That said, I'd rather have Alleman for o-line depth than a player who *might* be washed up because of injuries. Now, I guess this is where you have to trust your medical staff. If they say Lilja is fine, well, all right...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

My bad.

I believe it was a late-round selection. We don't have any 6th or 7th rounders, for example.

Here's my deal. Yeah, people saw something in Alleman, just like Pioli, who saw enough to give up something of real value in return. Yes, I'm one of those idiots who think even 6th or 7th round selections can be meaningful.

That said, I'd rather have Alleman for o-line depth than a player who *might* be washed up because of injuries. Now, I guess this is where you have to trust your medical staff. If they say Lilja is fine, well, all right...

Fair enough. If Lilja is healthy then we have a legit starter instead of a 3rd team backup. I would hope the Chiefs medical staff isn't reeruned and cleared him though nothing would surprise me.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That said, I'd rather have Alleman for o-line depth than a player who *might* be washed up because of injuries. Now, I guess this is where you have to trust your medical staff. If they say Lilja is fine, well, all right...

Option 1. Allemen who hasn't done a thing in the league but bounce from team to team and who might have potential.
Option 2. Lilja who has a history as a starter, has played exceptionally well most of his career, 28 years old, mainly needs to get healthy (started every game last year) and you have a known commodity.

I take option #2 every time assuming he passes a physical, which he apparently did.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

My bad.

I believe it was a late-round selection. We don't have any 6th or 7th rounders, for example.

Here's my deal. Yeah, people saw something in Alleman, just like Pioli, who saw enough to give up something of real value in return. Yes, I'm one of those idiots who think even 6th or 7th round selections can be meaningful.

That said, I'd rather have Alleman for o-line depth than a player who *might* be washed up because of injuries. Now, I guess this is where you have to trust your medical staff. If they say Lilja is fine, well, all right...

The problem with Allenman is that he's had back issues since the day he came into the league.

So what you have, really, is the choice between a guy who can't stay healthy (Allenman), and a guy whose knees may or may not be shot.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I like the signing of Lilja as long as he is healthy. He is fairly young and should be in the prime of his career. He is a definite upgrade over anything we had at the position.

I couldn't disagree more.

He is in no way, shape or form, an "upgrade" over Wade Smith.

And why would Bill Polian cut a guy in the prime of his career?

[Bill Lundberg]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I couldn't disagree more.

He is in no way, shape or form, an "upgrade" over Wade Smith.

And why would Bill Polian cut a guy in the prime of his career?

I agree with this one. I have no idea why we didn't keep Smith. He signed a very reasonable contract with Houston.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I couldn't disagree more.

He is in no way, shape or form, an "upgrade" over Wade Smith.

And why would Bill Polian cut a guy in the prime of his career?

We will agree to disagree then. Wade Smith is a career backup albeit he is very versatile.

As I said earlier in this thread the Colts wanted to go bigger on the OL.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

On what?

I answered the question very clearly. Directly? Eh. But very, very clearly.

So let me be more direct: At this point I've seen precious little evidence to suggest that Pioli wouldn't **** up a wet dream, so until he provides otherwise, I'll consider him to have the talent evaluating skills of his soul mate, Dayton Moore.

I agree with this, both guys known to be 'great execs asst gms etc' havent shown shit yet....Pioli doesn't get much patience and his draft last year wasn't good at all, esp our top pick. The FA decisions are mediocre at best

This draft will make this place implode or have hope that pioli isnt clueless

[Bill Lundberg]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

The FA decisions are mediocre at best

Just curious what you're basing this on?

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

Just curious what you're basing this on?

Any standouts on our team that we've signed? Chambers was a decent pickup, but other than that? Alot of depth type of moves, no splashes.