GM Pioli

[dtrain]

I believe he is building this team the correct way with solid FA's signed and not reaching for draft picks. So many people will say he reached in the 2nd round but those players will shore up a weak return game. Not everything will be fixed in 2 years so sit tight and see what happens next year. Year 3 is the year we should really see the results of what he has done so far. In my opinion he has gotten playmakers for a team that was really lacking!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by KCDC

I think Cam Thomas is still available at NT. We could also take some fat slow OL (like Colin Brown) and turn him into a NT. All you need to be a NT in this defense is be 6'5" and weigh 330. You clog the middle. Lots of slow OLmen that could do that.

That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

If it was that easy, everyone would do it.

[The Bad Guy]

And the myth continues that Herm can acquire talent.

You want someone to thank for the 2008 draft? Thank Bill Kuharick.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We still don't have speed in the slot. The guy is 170 pounds dripping wet and barely broke 4.6 in his 40. (4.58, IIRC) We used a valuable pick on a guy who's upside is a WR3. When there were legit WR's on the board, not part-timers like McCluster.

Why do we need a returner? Oh, that's right, we've cut the one we drafted LAST year, TWICE. A 2nd round pick used in a deep draft for a nickle CB who's smaller and slower than the nickle we took LAST YEAR.

Asomoah was a great pick.

Trading up for another broke dick TE, however, was not. This franchise has cornered the market on broken TE's - and who doesn't love trading up in back to back years to take a TE?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

everyone of those picks addresses a serious need.



If he can snag Eric Olsen or George Selvie or Myron Rolle in the fifth, I'll give him a B.

Thanks Dane. Homerun as usual.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Not you, pete. I specifically wanted a take from Pioli Zombie.

Reaper, **** you. I repeatedly said before the draft I thought they should take Berry and I said why. Now, after the fact, its a "no-brainer". Well, not on CP it wasn't. There was plenty of people talking about Clausen or trying to do something else. As far as McCluster and Arenas, a huge problem for the Chiefs was there had very little speed, unless you like Cassel having options like Bobby Wade and Lance Long. Now with Charles, Thomas. Bowe, Chambers, and McCluster, a real OC like Charlie Weis can do something, especially with the improvements made on the line. And Arenas gives you more athletism both in the return game and helps in the secondary. Getting the solid RG in the 3rd was just fine and the TE has been graded as a terrific blocker. He also looks like a very good receiver. Its a fine draft so far. I wouldn't say its top notch but its certainly a B+ Anybody with any credibility that actually gets paid for a living to know has given positive feedback.. Maybe if you stopped getting ALL your football opinions from CP once in a while you would maybe feel different than you do.

[WildTurkey]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We still don't have speed in the slot. The guy is 170 pounds dripping wet and barely broke 4.6 in his 40. (4.58, IIRC) We used a valuable pick on a guy who's upside is a WR3. When there were legit WR's on the board, not part-timers like McCluster.

Why do we need a returner? Oh, that's right, we've cut the one we drafted LAST year, TWICE. A 2nd round pick used in a deep draft for a nickle CB who's smaller and slower than the nickle we took LAST YEAR.

Asomoah was a great pick.

Trading up for another broke dick TE, however, was not. This franchise has cornered the market on broken TE's - and who doesn't love trading up in back to back years to take a TE?

All tonight proved is that Belichick is the ****ing genius, and we got the dipshit who apparently could care less about value, or completely invalidating the picks he made the year before by duplicating them - all while completely ignoring need.

Is it that ****ing hard to watch someone play.... McCluster is fast... and he's shown that speed on the field..... stop regurgitating 40 times ffs

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We still don't have speed in the slot. The guy is 170 pounds dripping wet and barely broke 4.6 in his 40. (4.58, IIRC) We used a valuable pick on a guy who's upside is a WR3. When there were legit WR's on the board, not part-timers like McCluster.

Why do we need a returner? Oh, that's right, we've cut the one we drafted LAST year, TWICE. A 2nd round pick used in a deep draft for a nickle CB who's smaller and slower than the nickle we took LAST YEAR.

Asomoah was a great pick.

Trading up for another broke dick TE, however, was not. This franchise has cornered the market on broken TE's - and who doesn't love trading up in back to back years to take a TE?

All tonight proved is that Belichick is the ****ing genius, and we got the dipshit who apparently could care less about value, or completely invalidating the picks he made the year before by duplicating them - all while completely ignoring need.

Well, here is the reality of the draft, some sure picks don't pan out, some guys you don't expect to cut you cut, some guys you took as a role player late end up being your best starter. Right now everything we have done is on paper. None of these guys have put pads on. For all we know Arenas goes all Dante on the league. McCluster might just be a Wes Welker. And Berry might end up being a total bust. Moeki or whatever his name is may play 4 years straight without an injury. Asamoah could beat out Lilja and be an impact player. We don't know and won't know until they get on the field and play. Coaches see things we don't and understand what we don't and know their plans for future moves that we don't.

I would have liked to have seen some different positions drafted tonight but the coaches thought otherwise. So the guys we drafted deserve a chance to prove the coaches right or wrong.

I mean, WTF expected Succup to be one of the best kickers in the league?

Who expected DJ to flop like he has?
Who expected Dorsey not to have quite the impact we expected?
Who expected Charles to be one of the best RB's in the league?

We can go on and on. I am just saying don't put too much into the draft until we see the results.

[notorious]

McCluster has game speed. The stopwatch only says so much.


That guy was smoking SEC talent every game. That counts for something.

[GoTrav]

Originally Posted by dtrain

I'll admit I don't like moving up for a TE

Me either and I've never understood the love for a TE in this city. It seems we covet them like a SP or QB...

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Eh, I guess I'm so over it that at this point, I'm not surprised nor am I bothered by the selections.

I thought Pioli would address the middle of the defense: NT, ILB and at least one rushbacker. Instead, he went with playmakers and very solid guard selection.

Regardless of what any of us wanted, everyone of those picks addresses a serious need. And if Moeaki can stay healthy, (something he wasn't able to do in college), he could be a steal.

I give this draft so far a C, which is much better than the F- I gave him in 2009.

If he can snag Eric Olsen or George Selvie or Myron Rolle in the fifth, I'll give him a B.

Hey dumbshit... what need does Arenas fill? Return man... can you say McCluster? Nickel DB... does this mean that Fat Scott is already admitting that Donald Washington is a complete non-factor?

What role, what immediate need does Arenas fill???

Answer the question shit face

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by notorious

McCluster has game speed. The stopwatch only says so much.


That guy was smoking SEC talent every game. That counts for something.

Yeah, in the highlight package they showed, (can't remember what network, I was bouncing around most of the night) did you notice who he burned not once, but twice?

Javier Arenas.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, in the highlight package they showed, (can't remember what network, I was bouncing around most of the night) did you notice who he burned not once, but twice?

Javier Arenas.

Concurrent punts?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well, here is the reality of the draft, some sure picks don't pan out, some guys you don't expect to cut you cut, some guys you took as a role player late end up being your best starter. Right now everything we have done is on paper. None of these guys have put pads on. For all we know Arenas goes all Dante on the league. McCluster might just be a Wes Welker. And Berry might end up being a total bust. Moeki or whatever his name is may play 4 years straight without an injury. Asamoah could beat out Lilja and be an impact player. We don't know and won't know until they get on the field and play. Coaches see things we don't and understand what we don't and know their plans for future moves that we don't.

I would have liked to have seen some different positions drafted tonight but the coaches thought otherwise. So the guys we drafted deserve a chance to prove the coaches right or wrong.

I mean, WTF expected Succup to be one of the best kickers in the league?

Who expected DJ to flop like he has?
Who expected Dorsey not to have quite the impact we expected?
Who expected Charles to be one of the best RB's in the league?

We can go on and on. I am just saying don't put too much into the draft until we see the results.

When they came in here and changed the scheme, all of us expected that Dorsey would not have the impact we had previously expected.

Edit:Oh, and when Charles was picked, I loved that pick and said he could be a faster Priest Holmes.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Hey dumbshit... what need does Arenas fill? Return man... can you say McCluster? Nickle DB... does this mean that Fat Scott is already admitting that Donald Washington is a complete non-factor?

What role, what immediate need does Arenas fill???

Answer the question shit face

Well, you aren't thinking clearly, obviously. One may be better at KR's than PR's. One they may have no intention of using as a returner.

Then again, a creative and ballsy coach puts both back to return kicks and you have a double threat. I don't think Arenas is going to see much time at CB because of his size. Then again, who knows? We have to wait and see.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

And the myth continues that Herm can acquire talent.

You want someone to thank for the 2008 draft? Thank Bill Kuharick.

well then, ****. give me bill kuharich back. I don't give a shit. this is just sad.