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Old 04-23-2010, 10:34 PM   #1
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Yea Cody got picked by Baltimore, I'm sure he'll such, uh huh.

I hope you enjoy the gadget player and backup midget CB with our 2's.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:41 PM   #2
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Yea Cody got picked by Baltimore, I'm sure he'll such, uh huh.

I hope you enjoy the gadget player and backup midget CB with our 2's.
I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:44 PM   #3
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I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.
in a perfect world, weis works his magic on cassel and you're correct about our second rounders (and shaun smith somehow becomes a great nose tackle).

I just have the nagging feeling in my gut that we aren't that lucky.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:49 PM   #4
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in a perfect world, weis works his magic on cassel and you're correct about our second rounders (and shaun smith somehow becomes a great nose tackle).(
Weis might be able to change where Cassel throws the ball but not how hard and how long...
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:46 PM   #5
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I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.
The Chiefs needed playmakers alright.

At OLB. And ILB. And NT. And WR2. And SS.

Instead, we get a guy who's upside is a slot WR - when there were legit WR's on the board, and another nickle corner, just a year after taking - that's right, a nickle corner.

Don't even get me started on trading up for a ****ing TE two goddamn years in a row.

Everson Griffen
Daryl Washington
Koa Misi
Sergio Kindle
Linval Joseph
Sean Lee
Terrence Cody
Major Wright
Chad Jones
Donald Butler

All guys we passed on at some point in the night.

Take any combination of 3 or 4 guys off that list instead of the players we took, and this defense is fixed for the next decade.

Instead, we still have the worst front 7 in the league.

But we have 2 nickle corners, 3 slot WR's and 4 TE's. Much more important.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:48 PM   #6
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Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.
So we'll have two corners under 5'10" at corner?

Uh...I don't see the Chargers, Raiders, or Donx drafting smaller and slower WR's...
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:50 PM   #7
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So we'll have two corners under 5'10" at corner?

Uh...I don't see the Chargers, Raiders, or Donx drafting smaller and slower WR's...
Yeah, Denver just drafted two kids that are 6-3+ and run like ****ing deer.

That's gonna work out great.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:52 PM   #8
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I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.
This....
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:53 PM   #9
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I think you're off here, Mecca.

First off, McCluster's been nothing other than a playmaker. He's a freaking stud. I think he was probably taken a little high and considering the Chiefs have other needs, I was a little surprised by the selection. But there's no denying that the guy is a playmaker in the mold of Warrick Dunn, Darren Sproles and Wes Welker. If he comes in and contributes like Welker and Dunn, no one will give a shit if someone else was on the board.

Secondly, Arenas isn't exactly a midget. He's 5'9, 199 and was a serious playmaker for Alabama. He'll start as the nickel immediately and will likely force Carr to nickel down the road. He's an electrifying returner and Gruden compares him to Ronde Barber, who is barely 5'10 and 184.

While I agree that I expected the Chiefs to address the middle of the defense, I'm not at all bummed out that these guys were the selections.

The Chiefs needed leaders and playmakers and they got them in the second round.
Arenas won't force Carr out of his starting spot. He was only a "serious playmaker" in college in the return game. He's a middling CB at the pro level, IMO.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:59 PM   #10
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Arenas won't force Carr out of his starting spot. He was only a "serious playmaker" in college in the return game. He's a middling CB at the pro level, IMO.
A lot of things I've read compare Arenas to Alphonso Smith.

You know, the CB the Donx took that we bash them unmercifully for.
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A lot of things I've read compare Arenas to Alphonso Smith.

You know, the CB the Donx took that we bash them unmercifully for.
Arenas is more of a playmaker than Smith every was, and Smith was a solid college player FWIW.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:25 PM   #12
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Arenas is more of a playmaker than Smith every was, and Smith was a solid college player FWIW.
As a returner? Sure...

As a CB Smith had 21 career Int's...Arenas had 2.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:31 PM   #13
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As a returner? Sure...

As a CB Smith had 21 career Int's...Arenas had 2.
And boom goes the dynamite.
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Old 04-23-2010, 11:31 PM   #14
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A lot of things I've read compare Arenas to Alphonso Smith.

You know, the CB the Donx took that we bash them unmercifully for.
I don't know if we'd bash them quite as hard as we do if they'd have spent the 37 on him straight up, rather than giving up a first this year to draft him at 37. Although they are Denver, so we might bash them regardless.
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