10 Great Cities for Young Adults

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

Being a young, recent college grad I was taking a look at this list the other day as I was curious about other cities that might be more promising for me. I can say I was utterly surprised to see Kansas City on there.

I really don't see what is wrong w/ KC for a young person. I really don't see how Chicago is much better than KC aside for the fact of being bigger and more expensive.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

I really don't see what is wrong w/ KC for a young person. I really don't see how Chicago is much better than KC aside for the fact of being bigger and more expensive.

As say for one, far more opportunity to climb the corporate ladder far more quickly.

As Otter pointed out, NYC is extremely expensive but some of those costs are offset by not needing to own a car and pay for car insurance.

If KC ever gets a light rail system, it'll change the city and the perception of the city forever.

They will, however, need to beef up their police force considerably because the crime is already exceeds the national average. If people from the 'burbs park and ride to the P&L or other parts of downtown without worrying about a DUI, the traffic there would increase exponentially, which also opens the door even further to the criminal elements.

[jiveturkey]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They will, however, need to beef up their police force considerably because the crime is already exceeds the national average. If people from the 'burbs park and ride to the P&L or other parts of downtown without worrying about a DUI, the traffic there would increase exponentially, which also opens the door even further to the criminal elements.

When watching local news it seems as if most of the crime is on the east side.

What kind of crime would increase if there was more traffic downtown?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

When watching local news it seems as if most of the crime is on the east side.

What kind of crime would increase if there was more traffic downtown?

I don't live in KC, so I don't know. What I do know is that violent crime in the city of Kansas City, MO is more than the national average per capita according to the FBI. If traffic were to increase even by 25% in the downtown area, I'd expect crime to rise as well because light rail would make it easier for the "criminal element" to get downtown as well.

[jiveturkey]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't live in KC, so I don't know. What I do know is that violent crime in the city of Kansas City, MO is more than the national average per capita according to the FBI. If traffic were to increase even by 25% in the downtown area, I'd expect crime to rise as well because light rail would make it easier for the "criminal element" to get downtown as well.

I have no doubts that our crime rate is higher. And downtown travel has increased dramatically downtown over the last 5 years or so because of the condo boom and P&L.

I'm arguing that even as the city has changed the crime has stayed primarily where it's always been. I don't believe that light rail would have much of an affect. Crime works best when you have a get away that doesn't involve standing around waiting for a the next train.

[salame]

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

I have no doubts that our crime rate is higher. And downtown travel has increased dramatically downtown over the last 5 years or so because of the condo boom and P&L.

I'm arguing that even as the city has changed the crime has stayed primarily where it's always been. I don't believe that light rail would have much of an affect. Crime works best when you have a get away that doesn't involve standing around waiting for a the next train.

he is just saying that more people generally = more opportunity for problems

[jiveturkey]

Originally Posted by salame

he is just saying that more people generally = more opportunity for problems

And I'm saying that there have been more people down there over the last couple of years and crime hasn't gone up. I've actually heard that it's gone down (nothing to actually back this up though).

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't live in KC, so I don't know. What I do know is that violent crime in the city of Kansas City, MO is more than the national average per capita according to the FBI. If traffic were to increase even by 25% in the downtown area, I'd expect crime to rise as well because light rail would make it easier for the "criminal element" to get downtown as well.

Majority of that crime is located in one area of the city. Around Paseo and Troost. I feel safer in downtown Kansas City at night than I do in St. Louis or Dallas or New Orelans.
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[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Majority of that crime is located in one area of the city. Around Paseo and Troost. I feel safer in downtown Kansas City at night than I do in St. Louis or Dallas or New Orelans.
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Yeah, and the perception has always been that downtown KC is dangerous, even though it's almost all to the east of downtown... and like jiveturkey said, there are a lot more people living and going downtown these days and it's still fine. I've walked to/from a few apartment complexes that are several blocks from the P&L and I usually park ~5 blocks away so I don't have to pay for parking and deal with stupid pedestrians, and have never had a problem.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They will, however, need to beef up their police force considerably because the crime is already exceeds the national average. If people from the 'burbs park and ride to the P&L or other parts of downtown without worrying about a DUI, the traffic there would increase exponentially, which also opens the door even further to the criminal elements.

they need to take the cops from the cities in johnson county and move them to KCMO. While the crime in KCMO is some of the highest in the country, Lenexa/Shawnee/OP/Leawood/Merriam/etc cops just drive around in circles with nothing more to do than look for high school parties to bust and give speeding tickets to the soccer moms.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

I really don't see what is wrong w/ KC for a young person. I really don't see how Chicago is much better than KC aside for the fact of being bigger and more expensive.

spoken like someone who has never left KC.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by sedated

spoken like someone who has never left KC.

I lived in Chicago for a year and I grew up in KC...

I would MUCH rather live in KC than Chicago...

KC is so much less expensive and really almost as fun...

KC doesn't have the same sports scene...but at least I don't have to spend $6 for a bottle of Bud Light if I want to go to a downtown bar.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I lived in Chicago for a year and I grew up in KC...

I would MUCH rather live in KC than Chicago...

KC is so much less expensive and really almost as fun...

KC doesn't have the same sports scene...but at least I don't have to spend $6 for a bottle of Bud Light if I want to go to a downtown bar.

KC isn't even close to the sports scene, cultural offerings, or nightlife afforded in Chicago. Further, Chicago has a much higher number of young people & a higher % of young people.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

KC isn't even close to the sports scene, cultural offerings, or nightlife afforded in Chicago. Further, Chicago has a much higher number of young people & a higher % of young people.

I lived in Chicago when I was 22 and 23...

and I've partied in KC (Westport, Power and Lights, Lawrence, etc...) since I've been old enough to drink several times per year...

My friends and I have SO MUCH MORE fun in KC it isn't even funny...

Sure KC is missing a great baseball team like the Cubs where it's just a party every time they play...and an NBA team...and an NHL team...

That sucks...

I agree...

But the "suburbs" of KC are SO MUCH MORE cost efficient to live at AND it doesn't cost an arm and a leg every time you go out to have a good time...

and there are PLENTY of hot girls in the KCMO area...my friends who have only been to Kansas because I take them there always have a blast in KC and we know how to party hard...

BBQ is better than pizza, too

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

BBQ is better than pizza, too

I agree.