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Old 08-29-2010, 01:49 PM   #1
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That's a hilarious post, after the shit that has happened here over the last 4 years you think a coach would change his system for a player?

NFL coaches don't do that, they're married to schemes and systems, if a player doesn't fit they'd rather get rid of him than alter it. It's one of the most mind numbing things that happens in the NFL on a regular basis.

And I'm not remotely arguing Leinart would be a star or great, I'm arguing that he would at least have a decent chance in an offense he can play in. The Cardinals downfield passing offense and Matt Leinart do not mix. I find it funny that they keep him if they are going to go with an offense they know he can't play in.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:04 PM   #2
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That's a hilarious post, after the shit that has happened here over the last 4 years you think a coach would change his system for a player?

NFL coaches don't do that, they're married to schemes and systems, if a player doesn't fit they'd rather get rid of him than alter it. It's one of the most mind numbing things that happens in the NFL on a regular basis.

And I'm not remotely arguing Leinart would be a star or great, I'm arguing that he would at least have a decent chance in an offense he can play in. The Cardinals downfield passing offense and Matt Leinart do not mix. I find it funny that they keep him if they are going to go with an offense they know he can't play in.
So they went into this season trying to give Lienart a job they know he couldn't win just for shits and giggles?
Knowing he would fail and they would rather get rid of him (knowing he would be great in a WCO as you claim) than change the system to fit his style?

Yea the happens all the time.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:08 PM   #3
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So they went into this season trying to give Lienart a job they know he couldn't win just for shits and giggles?
Knowing he would fail and they would rather get rid of him (knowing he would be great in a WCO as you claim) than change the system to fit his style?

Yea the happens all the time.
If you think Ken Whisenhunt has ever been committed to Matt Leinart I have news for you...sure they can pay the lip service of it's his job to lose etc etc, he's still in an offense that is radically different than his skill set.

Also Leinart has better numbers than Anderson does so how is Anderson leading for the job if it's a competition or Leinart's job to lose?
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:10 PM   #4
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If you think Ken Whisenhunt has ever been committed to Matt Leinart I have news for you...sure they can pay the lip service of it's his job to lose etc etc, he's still in an offense that is radically different than his skill set.

Also Leinart has better numbers than Anderson does so how is Anderson leading for the job if it's a competition or Leinart's job to lose?
Because they both suck?
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:20 PM   #5
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Because they both suck?
Leinart took Arizona 142 yards in 3 possessions against the Bears. Probably would have had 2 TD's, but Well's fumbles at the 6 with about 40 seconds to go in the 1st half on Leinart's first drive.

Our guy... on the other hand... lead the Chiefs to 48 total yards on 6 posessions, only to get the ball back on a highly questionable penalty by the far outside guy on the punt return team of the Eagles.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:25 PM   #6
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So they went into this season trying to give Lienart a job they know he couldn't win just for shits and giggles?
Knowing he would fail and they would rather get rid of him (knowing he would be great in a WCO as you claim) than change the system to fit his style?

Yea the happens all the time.
Actually, it does.

Teams draft players for specific systems. Teams routinely dump established QB's for QB's well-versed the new system being installed by the coach.

How many times has Pittsburgh changed their offensive philosophy? The Cowboys? The Patriots under Belichick? The Packers? Mike Holmgren led teams?

The fact of the matter is that coaches subscribe to ONE philosophy and teams that stick with that philosophy during regime changes are more likley to succeed than teams that are constantly changing their offensive and defensive schemes.

Leinhart has never been the right fit the Erhardt/Perkins offense. I have absolutely no idea, nearly 5 years removed from his college days, whether he can excel in the WCO but that's exactly the type of offense he should be running.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:37 PM   #7
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Forget Leinart. He's too much of a head case. I wouldn't mind having AZ's rookie QB John Skelton. He looked pretty impressive in that first game against Houston, and has a pretty decent arm. He looks better than Jimmy Falco, that's for sure.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:35 PM   #8
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Forget Leinart. He's too much of a head case. I wouldn't mind having AZ's rookie QB John Skelton. He looked pretty impressive in that first game against Houston, and has a pretty decent arm. He looks better than Jimmy Falco, that's for sure.
Cards are going to cut either Skelton or Max Hall, both of whom I would claim as soon as they get the axe.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:46 PM   #9
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Cards are going to cut either Skelton or Max Hall, both of whom I would claim as soon as they get the axe.
That's insane that they would cut Skelton. I'd have to think that he's the most promising QB on that roster, and even if he's not ready to start in the NFL (he's not) they need to keep him around for when he possibly might be.
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That's insane that they would cut Skelton. I'd have to think that he's the most promising QB on that roster, and even if he's not ready to start in the NFL (he's not) they need to keep him around for when he possibly might be.
Max Hall has looked promising in his snaps, as well, which is why I say I'd claim either one of them.
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