ESPN Talks AFCW: Chiefs & Raiders up, SD & Denver down

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Rausch

While they have struggled to make the playoffs 1/2 the time and in one of the Chiefs worst seasons managed to beat them by a combined 3 pts.

The only reason the Chargers aren't looked at like the 90's Bills.....well......they choke WAY before the SB...

They struggled to make the playoffs once in the last 4 years, and they won a playoff game when they got there.

And yes, they only won by 1 point against the Chiefs, but that was in their 8-8 season. It was a down year, yet they still made it to the playoffs and beat the Colts. You expect them to win EVERY game by 10 points?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Buck

They struggled to make the playoffs once in the last 4 years, and they won a playoff game when they got there.

And yes, they only won by 1 point against the Chiefs, but that was in their 8-8 season. It was a down year, yet they still made it to the playoffs and beat the Colts. You expect them to win EVERY game by 10 points?

No.

I expect them to step on their d!cks every single year like they have for the last 15...

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Rausch

No.

I expect them to step on their d!cks every single year like they have for the last 15...

Then what do you expect from the Chiefs????

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Buck

Then what do you expect from the Chiefs????

with no QB? I expect almost nothing at all.

look at it like this: it's a QB-driven league. if you have a pro-bowl QB with weapons, you SHOULD go deep into the playoffs ever year. we haven't had that QB since my dad was still a teenager (early 70's). he's now 53 years old.

there is NO reason that they chargers suck as much ass as they do. in a weak division, with an all-world QB, you should be NO LESS THAN 12-4 every damned year. that you don't is the definition of choking.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by H5N1

with no QB? I expect almost nothing at all.

look at it like this: it's a QB-driven league. if you have a pro-bowl QB with weapons, you SHOULD go deep into the playoffs ever year. we haven't had that QB since my dad was still a teenager (early 70's). he's now 53 years old.

there is NO reason that they chargers suck as much ass as they do. in a weak division, with an all-world QB, you should be NO LESS THAN 12-4 every damned year. that you don't is the definition of choking.

14-2 (0-1)
11-5 (2-1)
8-8 (1-1)
13-3 (0-1)

Whatever dude. You could take a look at us and say that we will always choke in the playoffs, or you could look at history and see other teams that were in the same situation as us and actually won a Super Bowl later. Just because we've choked in the past doesn't mean it will happen this year. You can't write history before it happens. Anything could happen this year. Thats why you play the games.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Buck

14-2 (0-1)
11-5 (2-1)
8-8 (1-1)
13-3 (0-1)

Whatever dude. You could take a look at us and say that we will always choke in the playoffs, or you could look at history and see other teams that were in the same situation as us and actually won a Super Bowl later. Just because we've choked in the past doesn't mean it will happen this year. You can't write history before it happens. Anything could happen this year. Thats why you play the games.

****, you've had drew brees, dan fouts AND phil rivers since the chiefs last won a super-bowl. wanna talk not fair?

and you still haven't won the big game. you had to have stan ****ing humphries to take you to the super bowl. jesus, have fun with that shit.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by H5N1

****, you've had drew brees, dan fouts AND phil rivers since the chiefs last won a super-bowl. wanna talk not fair?

and you still haven't won the big game. you had to have stan ****ing humphries to take you to the super bowl. jesus, have fun with that shit.

**** you. You've had Joe Montana, Trent Green, and TYLER THIGPEN SINCE THEN!

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by Buck

You could take a look at us and say that we will always choke in the playoffs

We do. Why would anybody believe otherwise?

Originally Posted by RedThat

Yeah (Gruden) looks like one of those guys that has evil in the back of his mind.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Buck

14-2 (0-1)
11-5 (2-1)
8-8 (1-1)
13-3 (0-1)

Whatever dude. You could take a look at us and say that we will always choke in the playoffs, or you could look at history and see other teams that were in the same situation as us and actually won a Super Bowl later. Just because we've choked in the past doesn't mean it will happen this year. You can't write history before it happens. Anything could happen this year. Thats why you play the games.

My viewpoint is you got that record against a very very crappy AFCW teams.. You were basically given 3-4 free wins each year because of how bad Den,Oak and KC have been.. Basically a free ride to the playoffs.. ( 5-1,5-1,5-1 and 5-1 in the division the past 4)

Then add the fact your defense is worse, you lost your main WR weapon.. Gambling on a rookie RB.. That and this will be the first time in a long while that the other division rivals have gotten a bit better... Well except Denver..


Basically your team had a good four year window where they should have received a free ride to the AFC championship game from the free wins alone from the division..

There is just no killer instinct in your team..

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Valiant

My point is you got that record against a very very crappy AFCW teams.. You were basically given 3-4 free wins each year because of how bad Den,Oak and KC have been.. Basically a free ride to the playoffs.. ( 5-1,5-1,5-1 and 5-1 in the division the past 4)

Then add the fact your defense is worse, you lost your main WR weapon.. Gambling on a rookie RB.. That and this will be the first time in a long while that the other division rivals have gotten a bit better... Well except Denver..


Basically your team had a good four year window where they should have received a free ride to the AFC championship game from the free wins alone from the division..

There is just no killer instinct in your team..

Again, 2008 was a bad year, but are you just going to ignore the 9-1, 6-4, and 8-2 record outside of the AFC West in all those other years? Are you saying we didn't deserve to make the playoffs in any of those 3 years?

The playoffs aren't a free ride, what you said sounds like a joke.

The Chargers have been Choke Artists, I will agree with, but that doesn't mean that can't all change this year.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Valiant

My viewpoint is you got that record against a very very crappy AFCW teams.. You were basically given 3-4 free wins each year because of how bad Den,Oak and KC have been.. Basically a free ride to the playoffs.. ( 5-1,5-1,5-1 and 5-1 in the division the past 4)

Then add the fact your defense is worse, you lost your main WR weapon.. Gambling on a rookie RB.. That and this will be the first time in a long while that the other division rivals have gotten a bit better... Well except Denver..


Basically your team had a good four year window where they should have received a free ride to the AFC championship game from the free wins alone from the division..

There is just no killer instinct in your team..

I wouldn't count them out. You know what I find scary about that team?

Their QB keeps getting better. Ryan Matthews was the right pick for them since LT is slowing down.

They have some question marks, but they're still unquestionably the best team in the AFCW. Even despite the fact, their divisional rivals were sh*tty, they still did what good teams do, that is, win your division games regardless if the teams in your division are either good or bad. But, when it came to crunch time, to win against top notch competition, they choked. Choking just seems to be a part of that franchise for some reason. they don't have enough juice to get over that hump. I've always found that about San Diego teams.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Buck

Then what do you expect from the Chiefs????

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