So where are the Locker fans?

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by beer bacon

Locker is 6'3 220. Luck is 6'4 235. Mallett is 6'7 240. Ponder is 6'3 220. Gabbert is 6'5 235.

Thanks dude. I guess, there's no midget or Brody among them.

[RustShack]

In his 5 games(excluding Iowa) before getting hurt he had 1,000 yards, 8 TD's and 0 Int's. It isn't great, but it was also without three of his top 4 Wr's. The second game of the year against Iowa was ugly with 4 INT's... but that was again without his WR's and his first real game in a spread offense. After he broke his throwing hand he finished the those games with 935 yards 6 TD's and 8 INT's.

This year though he has all three of those WR's back, one who stepped up pretty big last year, and a much better TE this year. Not to mention its his second year in the spread offense(our OC who game from Rice broke nearly every offensive record there after a down first year including having a top 5 offense in the Nation) and this is the first time AA has been in the same offense two years in a row.. not to mention its also his Senior year. Like I said, hes poised to have a big year.

He was very impressive last week(outside just a few throws) against NIU who is ranked higher than ISU, went to a Bowl game last year, and they have the #1 defense in whatever conference they are in.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by RustShack

In his 5 games(excluding Iowa) before getting hurt he had 1,000 yards, 8 TD's and 0 Int's. It isn't great, but it was also without three of his top 4 Wr's. The second game of the year against Iowa was ugly with 4 INT's... but that was again without his WR's and his first real game in a spread offense. After he broke his throwing hand he finished the those games with 935 yards 6 TD's and 8 INT's.

This year though he has all three of those WR's back, one who stepped up pretty big last year, and a much better TE this year. Not to mention its his second year in the spread offense(our OC who game from Rice broke nearly every offensive record there after a down first year including having a top 5 offense in the Nation) and this is the first time AA has been in the same offense two years in a row.. not to mention its also his Senior year. Like I said, hes poised to have a big year.

He was very impressive last week(outside just a few throws) against NIU who is ranked higher than ISU, went to a Bowl game last year, and they have the #1 defense in whatever conference they are in.

He's a solid QB, but he's not a guy who stands out. You can't laugh at the game Gabbert had against Illinois while praising Arnaud. I think Gabbert's over-rated, but he's way above Arnaud.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

He's a solid QB, but he's not a guy who stands out. You can't laugh at the game Gabbert had against Illinois while praising Arnaud. I think Gabbert's over-rated, but he's way above Arnaud.

Uhh.. I have never said anything about Arnaud being a NFL QB ever.

[beer bacon]

I don't know if Gabbert is overrated. Most MU fans know he has weaknesses, and the drafting sites don't seem to think he is a sure-fire 1st rounder in the next draft. Blaine has all the physical tools of the ideal NFL QB. In some of the drafts we have had in recent years he would probably end up an early 1st rounder, but in this upcoming draft he could drop quite a bit. Some years there just aren't many QBs that have the physical abilities NFL GMs want combined with great college careers. Locker will probably never do much at Washington, but he seems like a surefire number one or at least top three pick.

My hope is Gabbert stays at MU for a while and works on his weaknesses like pocket awareness.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Yeah, Gabbert was good when he wasn't playing against a good defense.

Vs Texas, Nebraska & Oklahoma State: 47-103, 581 yds (172.7 yds/gm), 2 TDs, 5 INTs

Vs everyone else (10 games): 215-342, 3012 yds (301.2 yds/gm), 22 TDs, 4 INTs

Originally Posted by RustShack

In his 5 games(excluding Iowa) before getting hurt he had 1,000 yards, 8 TD's and 0 Int's. It isn't great, but it was also without three of his top 4 Wr's. The second game of the year against Iowa was ugly with 4 INT's... but that was again without his WR's and his first real game in a spread offense. After he broke his throwing hand he finished the those games with 935 yards 6 TD's and 8 INT's.

This year though he has all three of those WR's back, one who stepped up pretty big last year, and a much better TE this year. Not to mention its his second year in the spread offense(our OC who game from Rice broke nearly every offensive record there after a down first year including having a top 5 offense in the Nation) and this is the first time AA has been in the same offense two years in a row.. not to mention its also his Senior year. Like I said, hes poised to have a big year.

He was very impressive last week(outside just a few throws) against NIU who is ranked higher than ISU, went to a Bowl game last year, and they have the #1 defense in whatever conference they are in.

Get your homer goggles off man, they're killing brain cells. You think hobbling around on a nearly broken ankle had anything to do with the stat lines in those 3 games? You can't seriously say shit like that and then follow it up with a pro Austen Arnaud post within the hour. The only good defenses AA faced last year were Iowa and Oklahoma State (injured against Nebraska). Let's take a look at the stat lines for those games:

24/49, 267 yards, 1 TD, 7 INT's.

Real impressive. Everyone fear the Cyclones aerial assault.

Also, saying Gabbert looked like shit last week doesn't hold much weight when you say Austen Arnaud looked very impressive with his 0 TD's and 2 picks against a team that you don't even know what conference they're in.

[RustShack]

Wait my bad wrong one. Yeah he could have had a better year than some of them if he hadn't got hurt. Who knows where he would have finished... he was in the top half at least before the injury.

[RustShack]

But anyways this is pretty irrelevant to this discussion.. because being a good Big12 QB doesn't make you a good NFL QB.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by RustShack

But anyways this is pretty irrelevant to this discussion.. because being a good NCAA QB doesn't make you a good NFL QB.

Better.

[Saul Good]

There's never been a Big XII QB who was a good NFL QB. Kordell Stewart is the best one. Yuck

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

There's never been a Big XII QB who was a good NFL QB. Kordell Stewart is the best one. Yuck

Troy Aikman started at Oklahoma, albeit for a year before transferring.
Bobby Layne played QB at Texas.

Granted, they were SWAC guys, but Kordell was a Big 8 guy.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Troy Aikman started at Oklahoma, albeit for a year before transferring.
Bobby Layne played QB at Texas.

Granted, they were SWAC guys, but Kordell was a Big 8 guy.

I believe Stewart's Senior year was the first year of the Big XII.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I believe Stewart's Senior year was the first year of the Big XII.

Incorrect. His final year was 1994. The Big XII's first year was 1996.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Incorrect. His final year was 1994. The Big XII's first year was 1996.

Technically, the Big XII was formed in February 1994, but you are correct. They didn't actually play under the Big XII until 1996.

Either way, Kordell Stewart is the best QB that you can even loosely tie to the Big XII. If you take him out of the mix, and I guess you should, it's Vince Young.

[RustShack]

I didn't see him step up once. All he wanted to do is run out with or without pressure. Even when he didn't run you could tell he wanted to by what he did with his feet most of the time. I don't know if hes like that every game or not... but he sure as hell was against Illinois.. or he could just have terrible footwork... which I'm not saying.. but if your trying to say he wasn't trying to run out then he must.