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Old 10-30-2010, 03:52 PM  
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Flowers and Hali in the running for PFF Defensive Player of the Year
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...le-has-landed/

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2. Tamba Hali (Chiefs, +25.1)
Perhaps the best pure pass rusher in the league this year. League-leading 43 total quarterback pressures, and without a single penalty. He’s not as great in run support, but he’s good enough.

3. Brandon Flowers (Chiefs, +15.8)
So he hasn’t got an island named after himself yet, but Flowers just keeps on making plays. Yet to allow a touchdown with only 39% of passes his way completed, and has a personal passer rating against of 28.8. In 41 targets, he’s only allowed one pass of 20+ yards. Stellar.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:02 PM   #31
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its way more then a select few.
Referring to the vocal few, the guys who've never played a lick of football in their miserable lives and need Google to understand a flag route, yet fill asterisk-laden posts with their CAPSLOCK garbage telling others how little they know about football.

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Old 10-30-2010, 06:03 PM   #32
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In reality these guys can evaluate talent as well as the rest of us. They will try to beat you in to submission by name calling if you don't agree with them, but their skills are similar to ours. I am still waiting for one of them to become independently wealthy based on their knowledge and skills. Until that time they are what they are... just a bunch of monkeys. Too bad they chased off some great insightful posters like Gaz.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:06 PM   #33
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:12 PM   #34
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I remember someone saying Hali wouldn't even be a starter for 20 other teams in the league.

I also remember someone saying before the season started this year that Flowers was barely a top 10 CB and didn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Revis.

It's in the Revis holdout thread but I can't find the thread.

Oh damn found it.






Hell just read through this.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ontract&page=3
God damn, Dane and Mecca have been getting their vag's kicked in the past few days.

I don't know that you could break down Flowers any worse than that shit right there.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:42 PM   #35
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:42 PM   #36
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Referring to the vocal few, the guys who've never played a lick of football in their miserable lives and need Google to understand a flag route, yet fill asterisk-laden posts with their CAPSLOCK garbage telling others how little they know about football.

Tony Moeaki, the 17th best TE in the draft, man!
Dennis Pitta is just as good and was available without trading up.
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:44 PM   #37
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I understand how someone could question Hali as a player, but Flowers?
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:55 PM   #38
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I understand how someone could question Hali as a player, but Flowers?
He's not 6'3, 230lb with a 4.4.

He's not an epic failure in coverage, either, but who's counting?
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Old 10-30-2010, 06:57 PM   #39
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Yeah someone on here wrote going into the Texans game that Flowers would have trouble with Andre Johnson because he wasn't tall enough.

The shit I read on here is mind boggling at times..........
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He's not 6'3, 230lb with a 4.4.

He's not an epic failure in coverage, either, but who's counting?
Doesn't Flowers run like a 4.3 or 4.4?
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:02 PM   #42
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Doesn't Flowers run like a 4.3 or 4.4?
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Doesn't Flowers run like a 4.3 or 4.4?
He ran a 4.5-something at the combine which is why his stock dropped. But he plays like a 4.3 guy.

The draftubaters obsess over measurables too much. Which is why most of the time they are wrong.
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in a game? yes

on a track without competition? no
see? we say the same shit.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:03 PM   #45
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Flowers runs a 4.3 if you watch him on the field. His straight line speed is phenomenal, and he's got fluid hips. There's basically no holes in his game except for his height.

I am so ****ing proud of Tamba. This guy has come so far, played through so much criticism, and is the happiest guy on the field when we do well. Flowers has faced none of the criticism Tamba has, he plays a position that takes less of a transition to the NFL.

Don't stop now, Tamba. Keep ****ing shit up.
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