Chiefs Common denominator during the Titans' six-game losing streak - Page 5

Hammock Parties · 12-20-2010, 11:24 AM

So the Titans looked like contenders and then they went on this six-game streak that killed their season.

I still think they are a talented and dangerous team. This, IMO, is our toughest game other than the San Diego game in the second half of the season.

Matchups I hate:

Jason Babin against Barry Richardson - nuff said

Cortland Finnegan against Dwayne Bowe - I really hate this, because Finnegan is physical enough to completely take Bowe out of his game.

Chris Hope and Michael Griffin against Matt Cassel - He can't telegraph throws like that INT last week and get away with it against these guys.

Michael Roos against Tamba Hali - Roos completely owned Hali the last time he played him. Yeah, Hali is a different player now, but Roos is a great young left tackle.

Oh yeah, Chris Johnson against...anyone.

Now, why did the Titans lose six games? Every quarterback they played during their losing streak was highly efficient at the least or explosive at best.

Rivers 27/36 305 2/1
Henne 19/28 240 1/0
McNabb 30/50 376 1/1
Schaub 25/35 176 1/0
Garrard 14/19 126 0/0
Manning 25/35 319 2/0

I do not think we can get away with another 15/30 performance out of Cassel and expect to win this game.

BTW, they just held the Texans to 30 rushing yards.

El Jefe · 12-22-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

How will our terrible QB ever live to the performances of the immortal Chad Henne, Donovan F. McNabb, Matt Schaub, and Silky Garrard?

Woe is us.

HotRoute · 12-22-2010, 03:15 PM

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BTW, they just held the Texans to 30 rushing yards

Do think that might have had something to do with the titans going up by 21 in the 1st quarter and M.Schaub having to throw 54 passes?

B_Ambuehl · 12-23-2010, 11:19 AM

What you'll need to worry about with Tennessee is their defense, not their offense. CJ has slowed down and is too patient waiting for holes to develop. Kerry Collins will give you plenty of opportunities at sacks and Ints. But the Casshole is not a good matchup for this defense at all. They can move laterally and stop all the gimmick misdirection and draw bullshit and they can rush the passer with their front dropping 7 back into zones. Casshole hasn't been very good at all against the type of coverage scheme they play.

Hammock Parties · 12-23-2010, 11:21 AM

Here is an excellent post from WPI

Here is what I can tell you on the Titans based on my research.

Offense
Their starting center Eugene Amano has been put on IR. So they started Fernando Velasco. He seemed to struggle in pass protection. The Texans were bringing a lot of crossing blitzes and effectively getting through the Titans A gaps. This was their main source for getting pressure on Kerry Collins and forcing him to throw before he wanted to.

*Kerry Collins still has an impressive arm compared to half of the starting QBs in the NFL. He is smart with his pump fakes and knows where to put the ball when given time. But if you force him to hurry in his delivery on his decision, he will under or overthrow the ball and potentially allow the defense to get a interception. He seems to be most bothered when the Blitz is coming directly in the middle of the pocket. And he doesn't throw very well on the run.

*Chris Johnson is the first guy the Chiefs need to stop. The Titans want to get the ball to him early and often. The Titans are 1-5 when Chris Johnson is held under 100yds. Chris Johnson wants to bounce it outside or he wants to use the cutback. There is rarely straight ahead running. He tries to outrun everyone with his speed rather than cut up field and truly utilize his speed to just outrun the pursuit angles.

*Kenny Britt is the key to their offense's effectiveness. They average 28 pts a game and are 6-4 with him. They average 9pts and are 0-4 without him in the lineup. The Titans got the ball to him early and often. He is really what helped them win the game with CJ's inability to get big runs because the Texans were stacking 8 in the box. And their secondary proved how terrible it was, when it game up two 4th down conversions on their opening drive.

Defensively
*Cortland Finnegan is a very physical corner that will do everything in his power to get in Dwayne Bowe's head. He will try to bait Bowe into a personal foul. This is a game where Bowe must keep his cool and make Finnegan shut up by being physical with him in his run blocking and run him over any chance he gets after catching a pass. Bowe's toughness will be challenged this week.

*Overall I'm not blown away by the Defense of the Titans. They haven't jumped out to me on the film like some of our prior opponents have. They don't have a great deal of glaring weaknesses nor do they have any strength that makes me say wow that will be tough to beat. They are a bunch of tough players that want to stop the run and force you to pass. And bring their rotation of fresh defensive lineman to pin their ears back and get after the quarterback.

*Fear the Tight End?
Tight Ends vs the Titans D
Week 1- Zach Miller 4 rec 43yds 10.8 avg LG-27
Week 3- Kevin Boss 3 rec 88yds 29.3 avg LG-54
Week 5- Jason Witten 5 rec 84yds 16.8 avg LG-31
Week 8- Antonio Gates 5 rec 123yds 24.6 avg LG-48
Week 10-Anthony Fasano 5 rec 107yds 21.4 avg LG-31
Week 11-Chris Cooley 7 rec 91yds 13.0 avg LG-26

Special Teams

*Marc Mariani is a dangerous kick and punt returner. He really has a knack for finding his way through defenders. The Chiefs coverage unit will need to stay in their lanes to keep him corralled. He did a really good job of helping the Titans offense have their own 40 to mid-field.

*I felt the coverage unit on kickoff and punt return just were not a strength like I was expecting. If you have a returner with good field vision and speed, they can make them pay in a hurry.

In The Titans 8 Losses
-7 turnovers overall
66 total penalties AVG of 8 a game.
Outscored 109 to 59 in 1st half

Steelers 13 to 3 -7 turnovers 11 penalties
Broncos 10 to 10 -1 turnover 10 penalties
Chargers 14 to 19 +1 turnover 10 penalties
Dolphins 10 to 10 -2 Turnover 5 Penalties
Redskins 10 to 10 +1 Turnovers 11 penalties
Texans 14 to 0 -3 Turnovers 10 Penalties
Jaguars 17 to 0 +2 Turnovers 4 Penalties
Colts 21 to 7 +2 Turnovers 5 Penalties

What the Chiefs Should Do

On Offense
*The Titans don't have ridiculously speed or extremely physical defensive linemen. I believe the Chiefs can run them over.

*Tony Moeaki and Chris Chambers or Verran Tucker need to come up big in this game. Moeaki can continue a trend in play-action of tight ends having a field day.

*Dexter McCluster on reverses could be a whole lot of fun this week.

On Defense
*Don't allow CJ to bounce runs outside. And make sure the backside linebacker does not allow him to have his cutback lane.

*Attack the middle of the pocket when the Titans pass. It will cause the Titans fits in their timing.

*Limit Kenny Britt's catches. He will tear you up all day and move the chains if you allow him. Get Physical with him at the line.

ToxSocks · 12-23-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

What you'll need to worry about with Tennessee is their defense, not their offense. CJ has slowed down and is too patient waiting for holes to develop. Kerry Collins will give you plenty of opportunities at sacks and Ints. But the Casshole is not a good matchup for this defense at all. They can move laterally and stop all the gimmick misdirection and draw bullshit and they can rush the passer with their front dropping 7 back into zones. Casshole hasn't been very good at all against the type of coverage scheme they play.

uh huh.

|Zach| · 12-23-2010, 11:23 AM

Chiefs win by 2 touchdowns.

Demonpenz · 12-23-2010, 11:25 AM

I don't have any comment exept for I like when the team keeps the ball in front of them that is when DJ can do his thang and strip the ball and Berry can bust shit up

Hammock Parties · 12-26-2010, 01:19 AM

• "There have been some games this year when (Titans defensive coordinator) Chuck Cecil clearly was overmatched. He just does not yet understand matchups. He's been taken to school a few times this year by the savvy, old vets."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...ing-te-stevens

• "The guards are the weak link on Tennessee's offensive line."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...-knows-offense

WebGem · 12-26-2010, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gif Horse

• "There have been some games this year when (Titans defensive coordinator) Chuck Cecil clearly was overmatched. He just does not yet understand matchups. He's been taken to school a few times this year by the savvy, old vets."

http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...ing-te-stevens

Romeo FTW

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-26-2010, 02:14 AM

Too much thinking in this thread. Just win the ****ing game.

HMc · 12-26-2010, 03:09 AM

So you're saying there's some degree of correlation between teams that have average or above average QB play and teams that win games?

Where do I sign up for premium?

**petegz28** · 12-26-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HotRoute

Do think that might have had something to do with the titans going up by 21 in the 1st quarter and M.Schaub having to throw 54 passes?

That and the fact the Houston defense sucks ass

Coach · 12-26-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

That and the fact the Houston defense sucks ass

I'm still pissed about losing that game....
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**petegz28** · 12-26-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach

I'm still pissed about losing that game....
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I am too. We went to sleep on D and let the best part of their game take over. That and a totally bunk ass PI call against Flowers. Still should have won the game though.

Hammock Parties · 12-26-2010, 12:48 PM

I'd say Cassel is highly efficient today.

12-20-2010, 11:24 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $800478	Common denominator during the Titans' six-game losing streak So the Titans looked like contenders and then they went on this six-game streak that killed their season. I still think they are a talented and dangerous team. This, IMO, is our toughest game other than the San Diego game in the second half of the season. Matchups I hate: Jason Babin against Barry Richardson - nuff said Cortland Finnegan against Dwayne Bowe - I really hate this, because Finnegan is physical enough to completely take Bowe out of his game. Chris Hope and Michael Griffin against Matt Cassel - He can't telegraph throws like that INT last week and get away with it against these guys. Michael Roos against Tamba Hali - Roos completely owned Hali the last time he played him. Yeah, Hali is a different player now, but Roos is a great young left tackle. Oh yeah, Chris Johnson against...anyone. Now, why did the Titans lose six games? Every quarterback they played during their losing streak was highly efficient at the least or explosive at best. Rivers 27/36 305 2/1 Henne 19/28 240 1/0 McNabb 30/50 376 1/1 Schaub 25/35 176 1/0 Garrard 14/19 126 0/0 Manning 25/35 319 2/0 I do not think we can get away with another 15/30 performance out of Cassel and expect to win this game. BTW, they just held the Texans to 30 rushing yards.
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12-23-2010, 11:19 AM	#63
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9705405	What you'll need to worry about with Tennessee is their defense, not their offense. CJ has slowed down and is too patient waiting for holes to develop. Kerry Collins will give you plenty of opportunities at sacks and Ints. But the Casshole is not a good matchup for this defense at all. They can move laterally and stop all the gimmick misdirection and draw bullshit and they can rush the passer with their front dropping 7 back into zones. Casshole hasn't been very good at all against the type of coverage scheme they play. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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12-23-2010, 11:21 AM	#64
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $800478	Here is an excellent post from WPI Here is what I can tell you on the Titans based on my research. Offense Their starting center Eugene Amano has been put on IR. So they started Fernando Velasco. He seemed to struggle in pass protection. The Texans were bringing a lot of crossing blitzes and effectively getting through the Titans A gaps. This was their main source for getting pressure on Kerry Collins and forcing him to throw before he wanted to. Kerry Collins still has an impressive arm compared to half of the starting QBs in the NFL. He is smart with his pump fakes and knows where to put the ball when given time. But if you force him to hurry in his delivery on his decision, he will under or overthrow the ball and potentially allow the defense to get a interception. He seems to be most bothered when the Blitz is coming directly in the middle of the pocket. And he doesn't throw very well on the run. Chris Johnson is the first guy the Chiefs need to stop. The Titans want to get the ball to him early and often. The Titans are 1-5 when Chris Johnson is held under 100yds. Chris Johnson wants to bounce it outside or he wants to use the cutback. There is rarely straight ahead running. He tries to outrun everyone with his speed rather than cut up field and truly utilize his speed to just outrun the pursuit angles. Kenny Britt is the key to their offense's effectiveness. They average 28 pts a game and are 6-4 with him. They average 9pts and are 0-4 without him in the lineup. The Titans got the ball to him early and often. He is really what helped them win the game with CJ's inability to get big runs because the Texans were stacking 8 in the box. And their secondary proved how terrible it was, when it game up two 4th down conversions on their opening drive. Defensively* Cortland Finnegan is a very physical corner that will do everything in his power to get in Dwayne Bowe's head. He will try to bait Bowe into a personal foul. This is a game where Bowe must keep his cool and make Finnegan shut up by being physical with him in his run blocking and run him over any chance he gets after catching a pass. Bowe's toughness will be challenged this week. Overall I'm not blown away by the Defense of the Titans. They haven't jumped out to me on the film like some of our prior opponents have. They don't have a great deal of glaring weaknesses nor do they have any strength that makes me say wow that will be tough to beat. They are a bunch of tough players that want to stop the run and force you to pass. And bring their rotation of fresh defensive lineman to pin their ears back and get after the quarterback. Fear the Tight End? Tight Ends vs the Titans D Week 1- Zach Miller 4 rec 43yds 10.8 avg LG-27 Week 3- Kevin Boss 3 rec 88yds 29.3 avg LG-54 Week 5- Jason Witten 5 rec 84yds 16.8 avg LG-31 Week 8- Antonio Gates 5 rec 123yds 24.6 avg LG-48 Week 10-Anthony Fasano 5 rec 107yds 21.4 avg LG-31 Week 11-Chris Cooley 7 rec 91yds 13.0 avg LG-26 Special Teams* Marc Mariani is a dangerous kick and punt returner. He really has a knack for finding his way through defenders. The Chiefs coverage unit will need to stay in their lanes to keep him corralled. He did a really good job of helping the Titans offense have their own 40 to mid-field. I felt the coverage unit on kickoff and punt return just were not a strength like I was expecting. If you have a returner with good field vision and speed, they can make them pay in a hurry. In The Titans 8 Losses -7 turnovers overall 66 total penalties AVG of 8 a game. Outscored 109 to 59 in 1st half Steelers 13 to 3 -7 turnovers 11 penalties Broncos 10 to 10 -1 turnover 10 penalties Chargers 14 to 19 +1 turnover 10 penalties Dolphins 10 to 10 -2 Turnover 5 Penalties Redskins 10 to 10 +1 Turnovers 11 penalties Texans 14 to 0 -3 Turnovers 10 Penalties Jaguars 17 to 0 +2 Turnovers 4 Penalties Colts 21 to 7 +2 Turnovers 5 Penalties What the Chiefs Should Do On Offense The Titans don't have ridiculously speed or extremely physical defensive linemen. I believe the Chiefs can run them over. Tony Moeaki and Chris Chambers or Verran Tucker need to come up big in this game. Moeaki can continue a trend in play-action of tight ends having a field day. Dexter McCluster on reverses could be a whole lot of fun this week. On Defense* Don't allow CJ to bounce runs outside. And make sure the backside linebacker does not allow him to have his cutback lane. Attack the middle of the pocket when the Titans pass. It will cause the Titans fits in their timing. *Limit Kenny Britt's catches. He will tear you up all day and move the chains if you allow him. Get Physical with him at the line. __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-23-2010, 11:23 AM	#66
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12-23-2010, 11:25 AM	#67
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $-403864	I don't have any comment exept for I like when the team keeps the ball in front of them that is when DJ can do his thang and strip the ball and Berry can bust shit up __________________
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12-26-2010, 01:19 AM	#68
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $800478	• "There have been some games this year when (Titans defensive coordinator) Chuck Cecil clearly was overmatched. He just does not yet understand matchups. He's been taken to school a few times this year by the savvy, old vets." http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...ing-te-stevens • "The guards are the weak link on Tennessee's offensive line." http://www.profootballweekly.com/201...-knows-offense __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-26-2010, 03:09 AM	#71
HMc from the very deep south. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia. Casino cash: $9944900	So you're saying there's some degree of correlation between teams that have average or above average QB play and teams that win games? Where do I sign up for premium?
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12-26-2010, 12:48 PM	#75
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $800478	I'd say Cassel is highly efficient today. __________________ Chiefs game films
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